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    Avatar photoMaxilon 5
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    #270599
    Avatar photoDrone
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    I do hope you crack
    the code.

    The punting life is tiptoeing on ice, a ginger picking between the crazing and the cracks

    I was good in the noughties, comfortably good, smugly good and the eye for so long focussed on the feet ended the decade along with head, in the clouds

    Crack! a cold, cold plunge and a swim with the little fish who for so long I had the conceit to think were safely trapped beneath me

    Not a pike, not even a stickleback, but just one of the teeming multitude of minnows at the base of the food chain

    I emerged chilled, chastened, wrinkled and green-gilled but wiser:

    the Eureka moment – what a fool I have been, it is the Serpentine in a cold snap I walk not Baikal at 40-below :x

    Old dogs can be taught new lessons, not tricks

    The new decade awaits

    Tick-tock :?

    #270603
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    Could be worse. He could have been betting in $US ended up looking green and wrinkled :lol:

    Or be betting in Thai Baht and be down a couple of million :D
    Great thread.

    #270621
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    So, another trend seems to be less bets and bigger stakes. Picking your moments and making the most of them. Excellent advice – I can identify with that.

    “don’t bet in large-field handicaps” (M Deering)

    How we differ! IMO, the racing world would be a finer place if it was all about the large field handicap.

    A guaranteed pace, exposed form, sumptuous prize money (thus, improving the often inconsistent motivation of connections), good horses at tasty odds; often a ridiculously short hype horse to take on (or get stuck into), plenty of four/five place each way options, tricast possibilities, dark horses only you’ve noticed who get missed by the odds compilers in the morning; year-on-year trends to study, anticipating the presence of a draw bias with the potential to eliminate half the field, immediately leaving your well drawn horse with even greater implied odds and the massive adrenalin rush when you win.

    Let’s not forget the Mantlepiece Potential of such winners. The books tell you that a 10/1 winner in a seller at Newcastle pays the same as the Cambridgeshire winner. But how long does the afterglow last?

    How can you forget your Cambridgshire winner?

    I would rather have one bet a year in the Grand National, the Tote Gold Trophy, the Golden Mile at Goodwood, the Stewards Cup, the Britannia or the Cambridgeshire than a hundred bets in those anaemic six runner races where you cannot even be sure that the habitual rabbit is going to go for it and the market is jammed tighter than a crossthreaded screw.

    #270740
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    tiptoeing on ice
    is nice imagery Drone
    but I prefer the fox
    hiding in the shadows.

    I would though agree to
    your analogy in
    the initial periods
    as you build up that all
    important war chest,
    – so much easier before
    the number men moved in.

    Tread on ice until you have it
    is my advice then let
    the fox out gradually
    and let him often salivate
    and less often pounce and raid.

    I think if you are a trader
    you have to trade.
    If you are a traditional layer
    or backer you have to stick
    to your guns about price
    and not be tempted by overstaking
    and going on a trading expedition
    and holding on to your nervous wager
    if you make a mistake and the market
    moves against you –
    don’t do it or ditch it.
    The alternative defeats logic.

    #270744
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    Aragorn, when you have found your
    monster bet please get in touch
    I may be able to oblige :shock:
    down and out in
    London-Paris

    Estimated stake of 1984 quid.

    4/5 Big Bucks’ :oops:

    #270745
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    Aragorn,
    I risked more last friday,
    but allow me the luxury
    of one last krone
    and a big kick
    up me jacksy.

    Del boy Pakki
    caught me for
    five hundred
    last time I
    tried this.

    Any old hands
    remember the bet
    and the closeness
    of the result :mrgreen:

    #270757
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    It was the Irish champion stakes
    I was on Galileo
    beaten a head
    by Fantastic Light

    ouch :(

    and it was my honesty
    and miserable victorian principles
    handed down in a gene pool
    I could not swim against
    that prevented me from
    laying off.

    If your still writing
    your scottish football
    reports De Pakki
    I forecast more snow

    #270876
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    tiptoeing on ice
    is nice imagery Drone
    but I prefer the fox
    hiding in the shadows.

    I would though agree to
    your analogy in
    the initial periods
    as you build up that all
    important war chest,

    Every January the tank is brimmed full Gambo in preparation for the ensuing year’s battle in the war-without-end, so no problem there, but I was hoping to trade it in for one of larger capacity capable of firing larger shells…

    …this time next year Reynard

    read on ice until you have it
    is my advice then let
    the fox out gradually
    and let him often salivate
    and less often pounce and raid.

    The foxy fellow has re-emerged bushy-tailed from his enforced earthing-up beneath the snow and hungry he is. Out of shape and stiff of joint but a few slow pounces have loosened the sinews and netted a couple of skinny-mouse morsels which under the circumstances were jolly tasty, but too many escapees so no additions to the larder…

    …the lone hunter is patient

    If you are a traditional layer
    or backer you have to stick
    to your guns about price
    and not be tempted by overstaking
    and going on a trading expedition
    and holding on to your nervous wager
    if you make a mistake and the market
    moves against you –
    don’t do it or ditch it.

    Overlay back
    Underlay walk away
    Level Stakes
    No trading
    No laying-off
    I beat SP – pat on back
    SP beats me – kick up jacksy
    Miss top-of-the-market – doesn’t matter…

    …the bottom line

    #270880
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    netted a couple of skinny-mouse morsels

    Skinny mice indeed. The shortest average winning SP (5.24) of the last 14 January’s, so far this month.

    #270951
    Aragorn
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    Aragorn,
    I risked more last friday,
    but allow me the luxury
    of one last krone
    and a big kick
    up me jacksy.

    Stop aftertiming Gamble….

    Sanity is not statistical….

    #270961
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    Aragorn,
    I don’t want your big bucks.
    Yes it is a big bet
    back or lay whichever way you look at it.
    Good luck,if you proceed with it.
    Hurdle races can be predictable.

    It was in ’01
    I was presemted with a public match bet
    by a member of the Flutter forum.
    His name was De Paki.
    I lost 500 but took it for the thrill
    rather than my belief in Galileo.
    Still a very good memory.

    Friday was quite a big betting day for me.
    I scaled down my risk after winning which
    is to me a sin but not as mortal
    as chasing losses.

    I fully agree with Paul Ostermeyer’s
    philosophy, but mine is different,
    and unlike him I do not fly
    or drive to racecourses on a daily basis,
    and our motives are as different
    as the Boston strangler and Harold Shipman.

    #270973
    Aragorn
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    Gamble, Orwellian in size…

    #270975
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    Brig brother gorn
    Surely you should avoid
    airstrip one
    and the ministry of truth
    and the oceanic race
    and lump it all on
    smokin Vinnie
    who will win
    same price as
    big buckle
    no man on top
    and without a fight

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