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Its a matter of opinion Bosranic but one person tries to shove his comments down other peoples mouth.
And ridicules anyone who doesnt agree with his view.
Mind you i thought RV ran a cracker today in fairness. She looked serious trouble 3f out but stayed on well.
Cant believe the market was so wrong with Midday out to 7/1 and then backed late….she really did scoot in
Hi, Wallace. Just edited your final paragraph.
Rainbow View ran really well. She just came up against a very good filly on the day. She’s now run two solid races over eight and ten furlongs and plenty of options remain open.
Midday didn’t have her ideal conditions and had to endure two hard races before today. I honestly thought, and Jim McGrath also, that those two races would leave a mark.
She’s clearly a very good, tough filly and it will be interesting to see if they fancy their chances agaist Sariska again, potentially on faster ground, or now stick to ten furlongs. I didn’t think she would inconvenienced by todays trip because she’s not short of speed and travels so well.
Personally, I would love to see her challenge Sariska at York because nothing else would get near Michael Bell’s filly.
I admit i didnt fancy Midday at all…in fact i thought she would be closer to last than first.
But Henry Cecil is amazing with Fillies and he produced Magic today to get that animal to win. Lets face it most thought that run on awful ground in Ireland would have finished her for the season. But she won cosily.
Either Sariska is monster on Heavy Ground or else Midday was below form that day but either way it gives the Oaks form a massive boost…first 3 all 3 year olds.
York could be a very good race indeed and is certain to be won by a 3yr old as the older fillies were shown up big time today( Goldikova apart).
"Rainbow View beats Fantasia by 2 1/2L in the Fillies’ Mile.
Elusive Wave beats Fantasia by 2L in the Pouliches.
Rainbow View beats Elusive Wave by 2 1/4L in the Coronation."
Jesus Christ i give up
Me too. I give up a perfect example showing she’s improved and you reply with that.
"O’Brien thought One Cool Cat was a miler. What an idiot!!!!!!!!
O’Brien thought Galileo was a 10f horse. What an idiot!!!!!!!!!
O’Brien thought Hawk Wing was his best miler. What an idiot!!!!!!!!!"
Obviously you dont know anything about Ballydoyle or else you would know Aiden O Brien has absoutely zilch to do with deciding races with his horses.
John Magnier Does.
And didnt he say Henry was his best Miler so your wrong there.
a) Of course O’Brien has a say.
b) I meant out of Hawk Wing and Rock of GibraltarOne Cool Cat forgive the lord….that horse was rubbish. Doesnt matter if he sent him for the Champion Chase.
That’s not my point, but ok.
Galileo won dual Derbies…how can you say he was a 10f horse is beyond me other than the fact he was sent to the Champion Stakes for Stud purposes. Another comment skewed to suit your argument.
And he ran in the BC Classic why? High Chaparral didn’t run in the race 2 years running, yet Galileo did.
"John, I’m utterly fed up of your pathetic games, constantly talking up Irish horses"
Yeah except i dont Rate New Approach/Mastercraftsman and Irish National Hunt. My word you really are unbelievable…..talk about talking comments and turning then into a mountain.
Your last thread on the other site is named ‘England vs Ireland’
"Your beloved Aidan O’Brien makes plenty of them too. "
Yes, I idolise him as a trainer, not every single one of his runners.
Yeah coming from the man who idolises him….hows your contact inside Ballydoyle???….didnt you say they said Mastercraftsman was there best Juvenile last year and that you were trying to convince me to back him at 5/1 for the 2000 Guineas 3 weeks before hand when you said you lumped on?.
Or maybe your insider forgot to tell you that RVW was there main Horse and was always number 1.
Yes, he was their best juvenile. It’s pretty obvious he was their best juvenile. I backed him before the Cheltenham Festival at 10s, so what happens between the start of March and May has got nothing to do with it.
2 can play this game….i can dig up a whole pile or shoite you talked to me about horses and paste it all over this forum.
Perhaps even your previous membership would raise some eyebrows….oh wait you told me not to say anything
Now I give up. You can’t get more pathetic than that.
"Me too. I give up a perfect example showing she’s improved and you reply with that. "
Okay Rainbow View beat High Heeled 6l on Debut as a 2yr old….when they next meet High Heeled was 2l ahead of Her at Epsom as a 3yr old…Theres a formline nevermind how sad or boring it may be.
"a) Of course O’Brien has a say.
b) I meant out of Hawk Wing and Rock of Gibraltar"And you think that O Brien wouldnt die to take on STS again with Rip? even before his dodgy injury.
B) Am i supposed to read your mind? i am afraid i am not talented enough as you to read minds.
"And he ran in the BC Classic why? High Chaparral didn’t run in the race 2 years running, yet Galileo did."
OMG STALLION!!!…..look at High Chaparral how appealing is he to breeders most of his horses are 1m2f+ at best….they sent Galileo to 1m2f to try and get him Group 1 placing in order to show he has Speed and Stamina. Zarkava i no you know exactly why they sent him there.
"Your last thread on the other site is named ‘England vs Ireland’"
Whats wrong with that???….are you mad coz Ireland won maybe?. The article was a bit of fun and not one negative post from it. I was trying to excite the board in having a Big Match up between Ghaanti vs RVW and never ever made any poor taste remarks about any nation. Sorry i try and engage the forum maybe i just go around like a blobbering wreck moaning about everything in sight like many do on there. My Word!!!!
"Yes, he was their best juvenile. It’s pretty obvious he was their best juvenile. I backed him before the Cheltenham Festival at 10s, so what happens between the start of March and May has got nothing to do with it. "
Not according to Johnny Murtagh who said RVW was always number 1 for ballydoyle…hence the market Strength behind Rip as he was 6/1 for the 2000 Guineas last July and his Group 1 winning stable mate was double the price.
"Now I give up. You can’t get more pathetic than that."
Your the one that started this with needless rants about how i am wrong and your right….i can pull them all off 606 if you like?. Your the one that roars abuse and people less intelligent than your good self. Your a very good Racing man Zarkava so i going to end it there.
Not going to hijack this thead anymore as again its not in the best interests of the forum….Maybe you could look at other people and not be so rude and condescending and i wont be as argumentitive.
Anyways i wont respond to anything else you post on this thread and hope we can keep it civil "isssshh"
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For all the prevarication about her participation yesterday, Midday ran right up to her very best form. The Goodwood ground turned out to be no worse than g/s, ( RP going allowance:. -0.40s: exactly the same as that which she showed improved form on at Newmarket last November), and the drop back in trip caused her little inconvenience. Though she has improved all season, nothing in her form suggests she would get anywhere near Sariska over a truly run 12f, and she would be probably better sticking at 10f for the remainder of the season, (all imo, of course).
Rainbow View ran her best race of the season (RPR 116) and within 1lb of her best ever form, her Fillies Mile win. Though she has obviously ‘trained on’ (whatever that means? ), she has yet to show the progression from 2 to 3 that you’d normally expect from a high class filly in a leading stable.ps to W7
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Don’t want to fall out with anyone here but the meaning of "Trained on" where a horse is concerned, is and always will be "To maintain it’s level of form form one season to the next"
Judging whether Rainbow View has or not is purely down to opinion. Perhaps her level of form to begin with simply wsn’t that good.
I nearly fell over when I saw the price of Midday as I’m sure a few of you guys did.
Maybe Midday was running over her best trip, I’m not sure, but this result surely points to 3yo middle distance fillies being far superior to the 1m-1m2m brigade as far as class goes.
Sariska might just be every bit as special as her trainer thinks. Henry Cecil seems to be of the mind Sariska is exceptional but like StS we willl have to wait and see what the remainder of the season brings. Howver things turn out that was one big form boost and a interesting compliment coming from HC who has handled some phenominal fillies in his time.
We did have a blow out yesterday and it was regretable.
2 Thickos blowing up…
Poor form lads and ladies… Sorry
Hawk Wing was Ballydoyles best miler.
Rock Of Gibraltar ?
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Hawk Wing was in my opinion a better horse on his day than The Rock. Had he won the guineas, as he should have, and been kept at a mile, as he should have, in my opinion he would have mopped up the same races ROG did.
Peruvian, I’m with you. I think Hawk Wing was a much more talented beast but I can’t see any way in which he’d have mopped up Group 1 after Group 1 like The Rock did. In 4 attempts over 8f at Group 1 level he only won once. Fair enough he won by 11L but you get what I mean
For all the good the Nassau did yesterday, the French 3yo took a huge hit today. The Prix de Diane 4th was beaten 50L into last place in the Prix de Diana (German Oaks) while Elusive City in 2nd was the only 3yo in the top 5 in the Prix Rothschild. I think this is quite comfortably the worst batch of French 3yos in a very long time.
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