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If the word "Paki" is so offensive, check this out!!
Just for the record, Andrew, the "joke" you refer to is the reason I deleted all my contribution to the other thread.
The Racist’s offensive comment about brittle bone disease runs it close too in terms of good taste. If you can find lower points anywhere on the forum I’d be interested in seeing them.
You see, with a nest-of-bullies thread like that – where humour is used as a cosh to maintain dominance over marginalised and defenceless groups – even one post will associate a contributor with the Law of Karma.
What goes round, comes round. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few contributors on that thread take a bit of a pasting in the next few weeks.
Before the usual libertarian arguments rain down on me like sleet, I also believe that the "if you don’t like it, don’t read it" non-argument is irrelevant in this case too.
If it is established that the jokes on the Alzheimers thread represent a norm for The Racing Forum – a standard of accepted behaviour and contribution – then every member of this forum is bound by those norms and consequently affected by them. Consequently, posters can make their own decisions about continued membership.
I’m pretty much done on the forum after the end of the AW season unless the Moderators emphasise and clarify the standards and guidelines of the forum. The horrific Harbour Pilot incident was dealt with brilliantly – but the Alzheimers thread was not.
Corm, you felt the joke was guiltily funny. That’s one vote against my position. I would be interested in hearing other comments from moderators.
I find some of the jokes on that thread offensive and I am absolutely positive other members do too. I don’t wish to associate in any shape or form with people who find jokes about vulnerable groups amusing. I left that behind in the playground and if anyone gives me that in real life, even friends, I let them know I am not happy. It’s called zero tolerance and helps me to sleep at night.
It’s not just the new members either; though there are some spectacular trolls doing the rounds at the moment as a result of the Betfair exiling. Some of the long term members really should be wondering whether this is the type of forum they wish to create.
A haven for bullies?
If the word "Paki" is so offensive, check this out!!
Any word can be offensive if its intended to be. Context is the thing. There are loads of Asian people that call themselves Paki’s there are black people that call themselves niggers and to be honest they don’t mind when they are called these things by other groups as long as they know the context in which it is meant. Something can only be offensive if its intended as a negative.
People going over the top and press / media / politicians making mountains out of molehills really doesn’t do any good it just creates annoyance and gives those minorities that want to use "race" as an excuse or for a political / religious agenda an easy weapon to use.
I dont think any offence was intended by anyone on the Alzhiemers thread max. Not only that but it is in the lounge of the forum and like almost every thread in the lounge, it has little or nothing to do with racing, just a place to chill out and chat about allsorts of things.
You see, with a nest-of-bullies thread like that – where humour is used as a cosh to maintain dominance over marginalised and defenceless groups
I was genuinely unaware that there were any such groups on the forum to maintain dominance over.
I dont know if you are just having a bad day, or are just taking the thread out of context but it is hardly a campaign by bullies, and i think Corm has got this one right mate, you appear to be over reacting.
If anyone feels aggreived by my input to the thread then please let me know and I will delete it, as bad taste humour is simply my sense of humour and no offence was intended.
Have to say I was a little surprised so many used that thread as an excuse to gleefully loose off their own examples of sickies, though I can’t pretend to take any of it as seriously as you Max. Rightly or wrongly having been slowly case-hardened in the fire of mankind’s unpleasantries, it’s all just water off a duck’s back, and I’ve heard it all before… but I’m just cold and unflappable
and you warm and emotional 
qv our discussion on the marketing of racingI do agree that many will undoubtedly find the jokes on that thread highly distasteful. The crucial difference – as I see it – between that and the contemptible ‘Harbour Pilot’ thread was that the latter was instigated with malice aforethought, whereas ‘Lolly’s Mate’ was just trying to crack a joke.
Still think it was worth wading through to read Bulwark’s classic typo "the place was in ruptures"
Chill
That is actually something we say round my way drone, i know your probably thinking raptures, we actually say ruptures, don’t know if that is actually a mispronuciation of raptures, or some sort of take on ruptures, but that is actually a common expression in my neck of the woods.
A haven for bullies?
.. hardly.
A bit of an emotional over-reaction, don’t you think? It’s only a forum.
I’m with Maxilon. Jokes about thalidomide, alzheimers and other examples of human suffering are beneath contempt. For someone to then come on this thread whinging about ‘bad taste’ is absurd.
I hadn’t intended to get involved, but Maxilon’s post made me think. I don’t and would never find any of the jokes on the other thread funny in any circumstances. If that is an overreaction, then so be it.
Have amended my posts from the other thread to keep a sense to attempt to address the balance between good and evil. Personally dont see a problem with the other thread myself but then no-one should have to explain the reasons why they have a probelm with it.
Been away this weekend and just got back to catch up on this thread.
Ken. I am not having a go at you. I thought that linking the tragic death of these two brave soldiers to some kind of Royal PR conspiracy bad taste at this time when their families are dealing with their loss. Others may not think it bad taste. I am not going to throw my teddy and rant about it. That is my opinion and I really do not give a toss if others do not share that.
I am not whinging Andrew. Just stating my opinion like you have. Is it only certain people that can express their opinion on what they find a post bad taste?
I was not offended by any of the bad taste jokes in the other thread. Indeed I admit I find some bad taste jokes mildly amusing. The conspiracy theory in this thread is not an attempt at humour. In my mind I see a difference.
Max, I think I read your post as it was made not long after mine. I thought you later deleted it as it was directly offensive to Lolly’s Mate.
Fair enough Kevin. Personally, I find it bad taste to use human suffering as the subject either of a joke or a conspiracy theory. Clearly we differ on that.
I’m of the belief that ‘jokes’ are one of the last areas where we are truly at liberty to say anything we want, and that nothing should be off-limits or considered beyond the pale. The only requirement I have is that I should find them funny.
I refute the assertion that I am a bully or lacking in empathy towards my fellow man, simply by dint of telling a joke, or laughing at one. In fact, I find the suggestion to be utterly preposterous.
Cobblers. Seems to me you want the right to freedom of speech but with an exemption from criticism certificate to go with it.
You found the jokes about Thalidomide and Alzheimers on the other thread funny. Good for you. I didn’t and now I’ve said as much. In fact, I find it hard to imagine how anyone could. That isn’t a pretence. I genuinely don’t understand how those jokes can be funny.
In other words, this can be called a disagreement. No-one’s going to jail and no-one’s being persecuted. Gosh you libertarians can be awfully thin-skinned sometimes.
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