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I think Lewis Hamilton is a stick on to win SPOTY. Lump on !
As for Hatton v Mayweather:
I think Hatton is beginning to win the psychological battle. However, as much as I’d like to see him prevail, he may find to his cost that Mayweather possesses too much class for him.
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Find it difficult to talk about as I was supposed to be flying out today for the fight.
Disastrous orgainsation on the ticket front but oh well and onto the fight itself :-
As for the pyshological battle, this has been won by Hatton long term. Most people, even a lot of yanks, feel that Mayweather has been too disrespectful. They’ve seen Hatton do it against Castillo – a fighter who could quite easily have a victory against Mayweather to his name.
This could easily go one of two ways.
It pains me to say it but I see a 8-9 round stoppage, due to cuts, in favour of Mayweather.
Hatton will attack from the opening bell, he’ll force Mayweather onto the back foot for a round or two but towards the end of this period Mayweather will start to land the odd counter whilst Hatton uses up energy.
Round 3 onwards and Hatton, while still attacking will be increasingly picked off and become frustrated that the hand and foot speed of Mayweather defends against the numerous attempted body shots.
Hatton has a history of cutting easily and there is no doubt he’s facing the quickest, most accurate fighter he’s ever stepped into the ring with.
There will not be much in it which is why I believe is will be down to a technical decision like bleeding.
Mayweather wont have to land too many punches in front of the yank judges providing he isnt too defensive and appears to cruise through the fight.
As a result his hand injury history shouldn’t come into effect and nothing should be read into the fact that he’s coming out of retirement. he’s 33 yet appears much younger, is in great shape (as 24/7 has proven) and his last fight against De La Hoya was only 7 months ago – some champions go that long between fights anyhow.
I hope I’m completely wrong of course and the other scenario takes place where Hatton kicks the **** out of him. Hurting him to the stomach from the bell untill ‘pretty boy’ cries enough by round 5 or 6.
One thing is for certain – the 3/1+ that’s been available about Hatton is great value.
Lee
Great post Lee.
Sorry that you can’t be there mate, I hope you enjoy it on TV while supping some nice cold ones
.I loved the way you said, "This could easily go one of two ways", before talking about a victory for either Hatton or Mayweather – now that’s what I call sitcking your neck out
But I know what you meant and like you, I hope the latter of your scenarios comes true
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Am I right in thinking that the award is a public vote (or have the BBC changed it), because if it is, then it shouldn’t matter that the fight is on Sky – afterall, Hamilton never appeared on the BBC once and is still hot favourite.I don’t think I made myself clear here. What I meant was that Hatton being on Sky PPV obviously limits the number of people witnessing the event. The Beeb can’t limit the poll to sportspersons who appeared on their network.
From the BBC website
A shortlist of 10 stars has been named for the BBC Sports Personality of the Year award on Sunday.
Formula One ace Lewis Hamilton, boxers Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe, plus athletes Paula Radcliffe and Christine Ohuruogu are among the contenders.Golfer Justin Rose, motorcyclist James Toseland, tennis player Andy Murray and England rugby stars Jonny Wilkinson and Jason Robinson complete the candidates.
A public phone vote decides the winner during a live show on BBC One.
My view is that Motor Racing is a far more across the board popular sport than boxing with the public and this will wrap it up for LH but a Hatton victory would make it less of a foregone conclusion.
Find it difficult to talk about as I was supposed to be flying out today for the fight.
Disastrous orgainsation on the ticket front but oh well and onto the fight itself :-
Hatton has a history of cutting easily and there is no doubt he’s facing the quickest, most accurate fighter he’s ever stepped into the ring with.
There will not be much in it which is why I believe is will be down to a technical decision like bleeding.
Mayweather wont have to land too many punches in front of the yank judges providing he isnt too defensive and appears to cruise through the fight.
As a result his hand injury history shouldn’t come into effect and nothing should be read into the fact that he’s coming out of retirement. he’s 33 yet appears much younger, is in great shape (as 24/7 has proven) and his last fight against De La Hoya was only 7 months ago – some champions go that long between fights anyhow.
Sorry to hear about the problems.
I used to work for Thomas Cook many years ago and they organised a trip to Rome for the European Cup Final when Liverpool were there.
They were unable to supply the tickets they promised and could only offer a refund. The guy who cocked up received a visit at home from disgruntled fans and was in need of new windows shortly afterwards!A couple of points about the fight itself.
If Ricky (or Mayweather for that matter) cuts up and the fight has to be stopped, I think that there are contingency rules in force.
I don’t pretend to be an authority on the matter but I think that a stoppage in the early rounds makes the fight is a No Contest and later on it goes to the scorecards. There may be a caveat about whether the cut is as a result of accidental clash of heads but I’m really not sure.I don’t think that the judges will automatically be pro-Floyd. I know that they’re all Americans but they are usually more concerned with agression and accuracy than the country of origin of the fighter. Also Ricky is perceived as a Raging Bull type fighter who is easy to like.
Floyd is perceived as a big mouthed, trash talking smartass who you wouldn’t let near your daughter so I think that will more than cancel out any natioalism on the judges’ part.I am a bit concerned that Ricky may get docked a round by the ref. as his style borders on dirty.
Ok, everyone, I like my sleep and I’ve usually downed a rew ciders on Friday night
and I really want to watch the fight. I know it’s not an excact science but what time should I set my alarm? Any suggestions with a good, sensible rationale are welcome. Thanks!! Crizz What is the difference between a Decision and a Technical Decision?
If the fight is stopped because of cuts, is this a TKO?
Ok, everyone, I like my sleep and I’ve usually downed a rew ciders on Friday night
and I really want to watch the fight. I know it’s not an excact science but what time should I set my alarm? Any suggestions with a good, sensible rationale are welcome. Thanks!! Crizz The fight is on saturday night/sunday morning. BBC Radio are advertising it starting between 0400-0430 UK time, but if setting the alarm I’d give it an extra half hour before just in case.
Are you listening in on BBC Five Live or watching on SKY PPV?
What is the difference between a Decision and a Technical Decision?
If the fight is stopped because of cuts, is this a TKO?
A "decision" is what we would call "on points".
Sorry to cloud the issue but I’m not 100% about the scenario regarding how bookies treat stoppages on cuts as the rules vary from state to state in US. I’d get your bookie to clarify if no other forumite can say for sureYou may have read and heard that Hatton has been given as the likely winner by the excellent Bernard Hopkins.
Former Hatton opponent Kostya Tszyu is of the same opinion.From Fightnews.com
Tszyu predicts Hatton win!
By Ray Wheatley — World of Boxing
Former IBF/WBC/WBA jr welterweight champion Kostya Tszyu predicts Ricky Hatton can defeat Floyd Mayweather on Saturday if he employs the same tactics the British bulldog did against him when he took the Australian based Russian’s IBF 140 pound title. Tszyu said "For Ricky Hatton to win, he has to do what he did against me in our fight in Manchester. That is, putting on effective pressure." Huge, huge pressure is something that Floyd will not be able to sustain his defence. "It is the sheer volume of punches that Hatton throws over many rounds that does the damage. Ricky is very persistent in one direction – straight ahead, and he does this very, very well." Tszyu defended the IBF jr welterweight title successfully against Floyd’s uncle – Roger Mayweather in 1995
Food for thought?
Thanks Pete
I looked up Technical Decision on Wikipedia here[/url:3onus8h5] and got the following (I have deleted irrelevant information where appropriate):
“A technical decision is a term used in boxing when a fight has to be stopped because of a headbutt.
In the case of a cut, the referee must decide whether the cut was caused by a punch or by a head collision.
If a boxer intentionally butts an opponent’s head, this is considered a flagrant foul that could result in disqualification of the offender.
When the doctor tells the referee that the combatant cannot go on, then the referee must stop the fight. If the referee decided that the cut was caused by a punch, then the other boxer wins by technical knockout. If the referee decides it was produced by a collision, then the judges at ringside must hand over their scorecards, and the fighter ahead on points wins by technical decision.
Fights must go beyond the fourth round for any fighter to be declared a winner by technical decision. Some countries require only three rounds. World championship fights must go over four rounds. If a fight has to be stopped because of a headbutt without reaching the required distance, these are automatically declared a technical draw.”
I ask because I was impressed with Lee’s preview and Mayweather to win by KO, TKO, or DSQ is 5/1 with Ladbrokes but this doesn’t include a Technical Decision. Presumably they are rare enough for me not to worry about it.
Incidentally, Ladbrokes go 4/7 that Mayweather wins overall but dutching the 2 possible outcomes with them (KO, TKO, DSQ vs Decision or Tech Decision) gives 4/6! Work that one out
I’m not a fan of boxing but I really like the 24/7 specials HBO produce. They convinced me to actually watch Mayweather-De La Hoya. That was non-PPV and I won’t pay for this one (I save my money for wrestling) but I do hope Hatton wins.
What really interests me is the business of the fight. The Mayweather-De La Hoya fight exceeded even the higher expectations and pulled in, if I recall accurately, over $160 million in revenue. This fight won’t do that much business but I believe it’s already made $10 million in ticket sales and, win or lose, Hatton has the biggest pay day of his life coming. Good luck to him.
Just watched all the usual nonsense at the weigh-in
Hatton may have to play fast and loose with the Queensberry’s to beat this guy, he can’t outbox him, and probably doesn’t have knockout power at this level. Mayweather ought to be prepared for plenty of low blows, thumbs, rabbit punches, butts – all accidental of course
That’s assuming Hatton can get close to him……I have Mayweather winning in the middle rounds on a cuts stoppage.
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and I really want to watch the fight. I know it’s not an excact science but what time should I set my alarm? Any suggestions with a good, sensible rationale are welcome. Thanks!! Crizz 
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