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- May 16, 2008 at 21:11 #7822
Hi, i remember reading last year that planners / builders were in the final stages of the planning decision of it’s ‘new racecourse’ based at Salford. Apparently going to be built by 2010 (doubt that now!)
Wondered if anyone knew anything about it and whether you think it will ever go ahead and be built. If so will it be another all weather track or turf?Thanks
May 16, 2008 at 23:05 #163978In 2004 it was proposed to be AW.
http://www.peel.co.uk/peelholdings/news … orest.htmlMay 16, 2008 at 23:19 #163979Think there’s a lot of local objections – the proposed site is near Salford’s very own millionaires’ row in Worsley.
May 17, 2008 at 00:51 #163982Do we really need another racecourse, let alone a sixth all-weather one?
May 17, 2008 at 01:39 #163984Could always get a few jocks to clear the site.
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysMay 17, 2008 at 08:26 #164011Hi,
Still in planning stages, as said earlier, prosperous area with very poor infrastructure to support a race course. Will need to build a very expensive spur off the motorway before considering the actual course & facilities itself!
It will probably never get off paper.
May 17, 2008 at 08:29 #164012Do we really need another racecourse, let alone a sixth all-weather one?
Would generally agree – personally I would think the only justification would be if the proposed course was somewhere where there is nothing currently available in easy travelling distance.
Which would be Wales – especially West Wales, Northern Scotland and possibly Cornwall.
May 17, 2008 at 08:36 #164016Would generally agree – personally I would think the only justification would be if the proposed course was somewhere where there is nothing currently available in easy travelling distance.
I may be wrong, but I’m sure I read that one of the justifications for the course was to provide the North with an AW track.
May 17, 2008 at 10:55 #164043Hard to imagine, without shuddering with horror, but I played a game of soccer once on the site of the old Manchester racecourse ( even though it was never my game)!
Now, the point is there must have been a reason back then for closure – as closed the course surely was.
In this day and age when we are dominated by screen culture (TV and computer) and even Walthamstow dog track is being sold off to developers, I really cannot see much future for new racecourses.
Sadly, racing is facing a battle for survival. Expansion thoughts would be very "bullish", imo.
I’d love to be wrong, and would wish the venture well, if it ever takes off.May 17, 2008 at 12:01 #164054Why don’t they just build a superpub and show cartoon racing for the day
May 17, 2008 at 12:27 #164057Do you mean a live link up to Great Leighs?
May 17, 2008 at 13:51 #164062Why don’t they just build a superpub and show cartoon racing for the day
You’re not far from the mark there. Can’t go to any Saturday meetings as getting drunk is exactly what it’s all about for most there. Last Saturday meeting i went to was a York one last year. Got stumbled into, chatted up (all very kind of them albeit) and couldn’t see / hear the racing through people talking away. Thought then, they’d be better off building a huge pub with that virtual racing stuff.
Though they probably put the majority of money through the turnstiles, so can’t complain really.May 17, 2008 at 16:25 #164070Worsley is just down the East Lancs Road from where i live and would be bettter off being bombed instead of having an AW course built god forbid.
If it did happen then it would need Train,Bus and Metrolink extensions to it aswell as millions being spent on motoway extensions to facilitate all the traffic which would go to it.
Myself i cannot see it happening as Haydock would prob want first dibs on an AW track and give it 10-20 years i can sadly see that happening.
May 17, 2008 at 20:38 #164098" Why don’t they just build a superpub and show cartoon racing for the day"
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After what happened the other day in central Manchester when the Big Screen showing a soccer game broke down, I doubt they’d go along with that idea, David!

Although somebody disagreed when I mentioned it before, the pub game is going out of fashion almost as fast as is racing.
The cartoon racing and numbers rackets are already propping up those amusement arcades known briefly ( 30 years?) as licensed betting offices.
May 17, 2008 at 21:36 #164102We don’t need another racing course do we? although it would be alright as i live in salford
May 18, 2008 at 11:23 #164155In 2004 it was proposed to be AW.
http://www.peel.co.uk/peelholdings/news … orest.html…as well as turf Flat, eventing, cross-country racing and the location of many schooling, stabling and livery facilities.
Mention is also made of an eco village, wildlife centre, sustainable timber plantations (replete with workshops and retail centres for timber craftsmen) and a full-size golf course. Very ambitious plans, then.
Ostensibly I wouldn’t have thought the outlay for Salford Forest Park would be beyond a company in Peel Holdings whose portfolio already includes the Trafford Centre, John Lennon Airport, three other northern airports, the Mersey Docks and Harbour Company, the Manchester Ship Canal Company, Clydeport and sizeable investments in Bermuda and the Bahamas; though by the same token there are a lot of interests there to have to subsidise, bail out or offload as required in a less attractive current economic climate. Maybe someone on here knows how Peel Holdings has been performing in the last year or two?
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