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    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Went badly wrong in the 4:25 Kilbeggan today.
    Just hoping this is the sole fatality for the evening, but you can never be sure during the summer jumping campaign.
    Rest in peace Magic Dawn

    #1701631
    Prong
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    Was it on the road crossing or just before that? The replay has been edited so not sure.

    #1701632
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    Exactly there, but I couldn’t tell you if it was the road crossing or not. Maybe someone else might have had a better angle and could tell a bit more.

    #1701649
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    Horrible to see poor girl, yes it happened on the bend as she went over the road crossing.

    RIP Magic Dawn

    #1701789
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    “but you can never be sure during the summer jumping campaign.”

    Please explain to me how this fatality is related to summer jumps racing?

    #1701797
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    Well there is at least a fatality a day when there is jumps racing during the summer. Horses not falling and still lots of fatalities. The fences aren’t tricky, the horses are fit, so why are they dying? You want to talk about numerous meetings with two or three fatalities? Come on, show some facts that this isn’t the case.
    Probably we should do a summer jumping count.

    #1701799
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    “show some facts that this isn’t the case.”

    “numerous meetings with two or three fatalities”

    Exactly, show some facts that this is the case.

    Are there more fatalities per race, per week, per month during the summer months compared to the winter racing months?

    Are more NH horses fatally breaking down on the flat part of a race, rather than as a result of jumping a fence or hurdle in the summer months compared to the winter?

    Your reasoning seems to bounce around depending on the current trend.
    Ground, crossings, summer, age, ability, breeding, trainer, jockey……stable cat.

    As you point out, the horses are fit.

    The ground is good jumping ground.

    There may well be an issue with summer jumping, but show some facts and comparisons to back up your opinion, because at present you have none.

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    A lot of horses of very poor breeding quality can’t stand the demands of jumping obstacles at a faster pace on rather firm going. How many high profile fatalities have we had so far (summer period) over the jumps? Almost none.
    But if you look at the Irish list posted once a week, you see a lot of horses that have finished their race and were found to be lame afterwards.

    #1701811
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    ERL ,my gut feeling is those Irish horses have finished there race and found to be very slow afterwards . That speeds up their demise .

    #1701814
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    That has always been my gut feeling as well Helcatmudwrestler.

    “A lot of horses of very poor breeding quality can’t stand the demands of jumping obstacles at a faster pace on rather firm going.”

    Good and good to yielding, which has been the case this summer in most events?
    Are you suggesting that all jumps racing should only be on soft….or softer?

    I won’t dispute the point on breeding relative to jump racing, but horses with poor/unsuitable breeding also run in the winter months and succumb to fatalities.

    “How many high profile fatalities have we had so far (summer period) over the jumps? Almost none.”

    I would hazard a little guess…..and it’s only a guess mind you, that the high profile horses are only just coming back from their summer hols, where they’ve spent their time frolicking around in a field for the most part.
    They will no doubt be targeting some event in March, not a mediocre race at some secondary racecourse out in the sticks during the summer.

    You’re not really putting together much of an argument for banning summer jumps racing, just speculation and wildly inaccurate assumptions.

    #1701838
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    Never asked for a ban, but it’s the worst advert for the entire sport. The Aintree fatalities are easier to spot by most people, but when you have one dead horse (or maybe even oneandahalf) one average every day you know that’s no good. I’m talking about the summer jumping period.
    Take a look at fragile 2yo horses running on the same summer ground. Can’t recall more than 2-3 fatalities in the same period of time. And there is plenty of 2yo races at the moment.

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