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- May 10, 2023 at 09:51 #1647233
Trivia question for Grand National buffs…..
What “record does Little Moppet hold, in Grand National terms ?Multiple choice.
A) Most times entered without actually running, seven.
B) Last 6 year old entered, 1968.
C) Lowest long handicap weight ever allocated, 6-4.
D) Slowest ever completion time, 17mins 14secs
E) First non-British or Irish horse to runOne guess each……
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May 10, 2023 at 10:13 #1647236I’ve no idea, but I think it’s a tremendous question and an equally-superb selection of possible answers.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"May 10, 2023 at 10:53 #1647237According to google…
No not really, but sounds like the kind of horse I’d be on so how about the longest time to get around?
Chezza multiple choice.
You’d still Chesney if you were wrong!!May 10, 2023 at 10:56 #1647238Typical sporting sam remark!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"May 10, 2023 at 11:59 #1647240Brilliant question! I have never heard of Little Moppet. Will guess C
May 10, 2023 at 14:08 #1647252Same thoughts, Marlingford. I’ll go B, on no other basis than it seems the most unlikely to be true, and, therefore, just might be
May 10, 2023 at 14:32 #1647255The two I would exclude are a) and d).
a) Entering a horse seven times at the ages or 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13 without running it seems rather unlikely to me. And why wouldn’t you run him at least once?
d) Can’t imagine to be that slow. It would be an average speed of 15.5 mph or 25 km/h
I could imagine c) since there were horses rated at around 190-200 in “those” days. A horse rated at around 110 could be alloted 6-4…..
May 10, 2023 at 15:47 #1647271B is the only one I ruled out as the minimum age was increased to 7 following the safety review of the 2011 National. Ironically, Mon Parrain had finished second in the Topham as a 5 year-old the same year.
I’m not sure who the final 6 year-old runner was, but it was definitely after 1968.
I could believe D, especially if remounting were involved, but am plumping for C. Am hoping the answer is A though as it’s so bizarre!
May 10, 2023 at 16:39 #1647276LOL there you go then. I’m barred from another guess.
May 10, 2023 at 16:53 #1647280Sorry Louise! You did say it was the most unlikely to be true
May 10, 2023 at 17:07 #1647282F) sat on a tuffet
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May 10, 2023 at 17:10 #1647284I’m guessing : B
I know that horses as young as 5 has won and the oldest was 15 years. However before the minimum age was introduced at 7 not many younger than 7 took up the offer. The was a short time were it got reduced to 6 but again I didn’t recall any horses running of that age.
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Eliminate the negative.
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Don't mess with mister in between.May 10, 2023 at 17:27 #1647290L’Aventure in 2005 is one example of a 6 year-old National runner, though I don’t know if she was the final one.
Her trainer Paul Nicholls has not been afraid of running his horses over the National fences at a young age. Gwanako won the Topham as a 5 year-old, and Mon Parrain came second in it at the same age as mentioned above.
May 10, 2023 at 17:41 #1647293Turko, a then 6 year old ran in the 2008 GN.
But who t.. f… is Little Moppet?
May 10, 2023 at 19:39 #1647309What an excellent question. I’m reasonably hot on Grand National trivia, but I’m stumped.
I’ll go for C.
The fact that a horse could be rated that low might help to explain why nobody has ever heard of it!
May 12, 2023 at 09:54 #1647498The answer’s C, Mill House was entered that year which would explain such a low weight, although the answer could nearly have been B, Little Moppet was the last 6 year old entered for nearly 40 years. She did hold the record for the slowest times at Carlisle and Hexham I believe, according to an interview in Horse and Hound in 1970, which is where I found her in the first place. The slowest Grand National time is lost in the mists of time, most early runnings never recorded times but several horses spent a considerable amount of time completing given the cross country nature of the event. Not sure about the most times entered without running, although Border Mask, from the early 70s, entered 5 times without running, which must be close to the record.
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May 12, 2023 at 10:01 #1647499It wasn’t unknown in past years for a trainer to enter a top class horse, with no intention of running him, just to keep the weights down for other horses. I’m pretty sure that’s why Fred Winter entered Bula in 1977.
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