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I notice that the Stayers race at Lingfield on AW Champions Day is advertised as 1 mile 7 furlongs and 169 yards
On the ‘normal’ AW meetings the staying races are 2 miles but the RP doesn’t appear to have a standard time for 2 miles, though it does for the slightly shorter distance
This is confusing me because I’ve been doing AW speed ratings for several years and have never noticed a 1 mile 7 furlongs and 169 yards race……..usually if it’s an odd yardage the Post will show the exact distance not an approximation
I’ve also never noticed until recently that there wasn’t a standard time for 2 miles……..
Anyone know what the story is with these trips ?
From the Racing Post from last weekend and viewable on their website but only if you’re part of their member club :
FOR 25 years Lingfield thought its two-mile all-weather races were being run over that distance. Now they finally will be, starting at the inaugural all-weather championships on Good Friday after the original trip was found to be 51 yards short,
From the Racing Post from last weekend and viewable on their website but only if you’re part of their member club :
FOR 25 years Lingfield thought its two-mile all-weather races were being run over that distance. Now they finally will be, starting at the inaugural all-weather championships on Good Friday after the original trip was found to be 51 yards short,
thanks……I didn’t notice that message !
but I’m still confused……are they saying that the race tomorrow will actually be 2 miles not 1 mile 7f and 169 yards as on the racecard ?
And does that mean that all the 2 mile races I’ve done figures for over the years were all 51 yards short ?
what a cock up !
The true race distance is 1m7f169y.
It always has been and nothing has been altered in race distance / standard time terms – though it was officially called "about 2m".It is bizarre that they claim the track was professionally surveyed and as it is AW no rail movements are ever needed.
No professional survey would have been more than 2 inches out as they use error correction software in their work.How long turf track race distances actually are since the mid-90s re-measure is anyone’s guess. The NH tracks have never been re-measured and may be a couple of furlongs out at times.
We have been complaining for years about errors on all tracks which become very apparent when you do sectionals or other hand timings. The furlong markers are not accurate either.
With the shambles at Wolverhampton of BHA not enforcing their own rules that the track is to maintain in accordance with the manufacturers instructions.
I have made an integrity complaint to BHA Director.
Punters implicitly rely on BHA enforcing its own rules of racing.They say they are to introduce mandatory declarations of added yardage to races due to rail movements. That just gives the wrong impression of accuracy as if the basic distance is wrong then telling you the extra race yardage remains still wrong. Of course that would not help the Lingfield fiasco as they do not move the rails on AW.
This might help you. The official race distances now at Lingfield.
After the recent sectional trials at Lingfield, questions were raised about the true distance of the 2m marathon, so the clerk of the course called in some contractors to measure the distance, where it found that for the past 25 years the distance has been 51yds short.
This will not have affected the RP standard time of 195.00s, so any speed figures compiled in the past will still be correct.
As the race distances at Haydock jumps meeting are recorded as accurate to within 0.5f, 51yds short at Lingfield is small potatoes
This might help you. The official race distances now at Lingfield.
thanks, that does clarify everything……..
For speed figure purposes I think I’ll just ignore the odd yard here or there apart from the revised 2 miles which is almost a quarter of a furlong different
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