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    Mike007
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    wd winners

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    Avatar photoWilts
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    WD Eezer and RTB :good:
    Procession job.

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    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    I didn’t get involved but if I had backed Hyland I would not be entirely satisfied with De Boinville’s effort. Maybe the horse would not have beaten the winner anyway but he gave it no chance from that far off the pace at Kempton.

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    GM23
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    It was a shocker from De Boinville Cork.

    First time in a competitive large field handicap and he gave him no chance from the start. Not the first time this has happened with Nico this season either.

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    Cheers Wilts and Mike that was easy last initially then cruised up to second then he was off :yahoo: :yahoo:

    The more I know the less I understand.

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    Well done winners, just missed out on the Sam Thomas F/C. It’s exactly his time of the year to win big handicaps.

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    Eezer has had a good day :good:

    The more I know the less I understand.

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    Mike007
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    I backed Hyland and thought he was struggling to keep up early on rather than a deliberate move by the jockey. And jumping stickily to boot. Pleased he got into the places.

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    Cheers VtC.

    The more I know the less I understand.

    #1721171
    Mike007
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    Trainer of Hyland reported that his horse isn’t a soft ground horse and as a result wasn’t able to lie up with them early on.

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    De Boinville normally gives up when he’s on something that’s struggling like Hyland appeared to be. Good persistence for once I thought.

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    Thank you everyone

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    Belated well done to Eezer and RTB. :good:

    I do think the criticism of Nico is unfair.
    I was expecting to make Hyland a bet. He’d jumped exceptionally well as a novice but had been up there on the pace in 4 of his 5 previous starts over fences… And as I said beforehand, there was absolutely masses of pace in the race. When studying any race I write down how I believe every horse likes to be ridden. Front runner, races prominently, tracks pace, mid-div, held up or dropped out. Including mixtures of eg “FR/RP” or “HU/DO” etc… And only two of the 13 runners weren’t described as FR, RP or TP. With 6 of them having “FR” against their name. It stands to reason that six horses cannot all make the running. There was imo almost bound to be a rush for the first fence and a strong pace seemed to me highly likely. In other words those on the front end of that battle would probably be going too fast early on – so were unlikely to stay there. Both the winner and second were behind early. Early leader Beachcomber finished last of only 6 finishers after setting an overly strong pace. (The later fractions a lot slower than the early and mid fractions).

    It is true that Katate Dori made up that ground mid-race to go prominent and kicked plenty soon enough. Does not mean it would’ve been the same had Hyland or another horse done the same. The way the race was run – an overly strong pace on soft ground placing a far greater emphasis on stamina… Suited Katate Dori; who’d won and run well in races over further which were on even softer stamina sapping ground. He had more stayng power than any of his rivals.

    Given the way the race was run – Nico played the percentages and held his horse up. Statistically the right thing to do. However, Katate Dori was (A) Well handicapped, (B) From a stable in cracking form, and (C) Had more stamina… And also, anyone backing an (apparent) prominent racer in this field should’ve known that horses ridden differently to what they are used to often don’t show their form. Hyland – the hold up horse – did not jump quite so well as in his previous two. Hyland made up a lot of places in the latter stages, but because others were falling back. NOT because he was given too much to do. He just couldn’t cope with one horse. :rose:

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