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  • #462743
    moehat
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    Will Menorah actually run? He has a pretty god strike rate when he does [although not sure about the ground].

    #462760
    Jenno
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    With the recent news that Captain Chris will miss the race it actually now looks highly likely Menorah will run.I have had my fingers crossed since my earlier post and they will remain crossed until the 26th!!!!!!

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    I am very happy with Al Ferof at my ante post price :-)
    I firmly believe he will prove to be as good as everybody thought he would be until his injury. I have also taken some 25s about him winning the KG and Gold Cup and also a half stake on Silviniaco doing the same, he is the danger to Al Ferof if the rain comes

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    tony321
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    Could be quite testing with all this rain and may be on the testing going, would Cue Card see it out in that case ?

    #462849
    Gdc1
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    I think not, add to that the price and then the Tizzard yard being under the cloud and he becomes a No Bet

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    I will back two horses in the race ; Dynaste and Long Run.

    My preference is for Dynaste. I think he is still improving and should travel very well for Tom Scudamore round Kempton. Long Run’s class and course experience gives him a squeak, in my view, especially at such tempting odds.

    Anyhow, DYNASTE for me.

    Merry Christmas, one and all. :D

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    Avatar photoMarkTT
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    I see the visor is on for Long Run.

    The few horses Tizzard has run recently have performed well enough so if Cue Card is in the same form as Haydock then he wins. Al Ferof with much more to prove.

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    Well D-day looms . . . not so much for Cue Card as for his detractors, of whom there are still, unbelievably, many. I’m beginning to wonder if he will even go off favourite for this.

    He will win the King George, and if there’s enough cut at Cheltenham, he’ll win the Gold Cup too.

    Good luck to all over the busy Christmas period. Let’s hope no jockey ends up in hospital and no horsebox trundles home with an empty stall.

    Joe

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    I admire your confidence but aren’t you worried that last year, in similar conditions, he did not fare too well? I get that he’s another year stronger and wiser, but that has to be a concern. Long Run seemed to revel in the heavy going last year and wasn’t in that good a form either, comparable to this time around. I feel he’ll be bang there again along with my horse who seemed to appreciate going right handed when he annihilated some decent horses at Punchestown. CC will probably try to make all again but don’t think he can repeat his excellent win in the Betfair in my opinion.

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    I admire your confidence but aren’t you worried that last year, in similar conditions, he did not fare too well? I get that he’s another year stronger and wiser, but that has to be a concern. Long Run seemed to revel in the heavy going last year and wasn’t in that good a form either, comparable to this time around. I feel he’ll be bang there again along with my horse who seemed to appreciate going right handed when he annihilated some decent horses at Punchestown. CC will probably try to make all again but don’t think he can repeat his excellent win in the Betfair in my opinion.

    He made a couple of mistakes early in the race last year which could have contributed to him finishing tamely.
    The yard had a 5% strike rate – doesn’t bode well as it’s worse this year but they had 42 runners last December.
    Also now proven himself at three miles and even runs a furlong less on Boxing Day.

    I think the Gold Cup’s another matter though.

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    I think heavy ground and going right handed are two negatives for Cue Card personally.

    #462899
    Peruvian Chief
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    Ladbrokes shortest price on the top 6 in the market. How do they expect to take any business?

    #462903
    TheObserver
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    Think that the whole physical built of Dynaste is one that brings out the best on wet deep ground. Small medium horse that uses both legs in good style on heavy. Cue Card in my view seing him racing last year in Kempton isnt suited to deep ground. His strength is his posture and size and a balanced run on normal ground, where he can run them ragged.Dynaste Sire Martaline has a 17% SR on Soft-Heavy for all runners which is clearly an indication they have a tendency to race better on deeper ground. Also Cadoudal Sire (Long Run) and Dom Alco( Al Ferof and Silviniaco) are best on deep ground. Together with the french bred Stat and the logic behind the physical aspects of these breeds, makes Cue Card ( Kings Theatre) unsuited also statistically to deeper ground a good Lay.

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    I think heavy ground and going right handed are two negatives for Cue Card personally.

    Might be better going left handed on decent ground but two wins last season on softened ground at Exeter and Ascot says it’s not that against him.

    I seem to remember a few of the jockeys describing it as bottomless in places at Ascot last February

    There are question marks but then there were at Haydock and he won well.

    I’m going to enjoy the race and might back Long Run each way in case they decide to go from the front in the visor. If Waley Cohen wants to win he has to jump well and make it a thorough test.

    #462921
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    Think the test he’ll face tomorrow will be too much for him especially if trying to make all, might get very tired late on. However WH are going 4/1 tomorrow morning should anyone fancy him (if not backed ante post already).

    You write Long Run off at your peril and if he is in the same mood as he was last year he will be tough to get past. I don’t really fancy the others so I’ve backed him at 12s and MB at 18s, should be a great race.

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    I’m on Silviniaco Conti for this. Also think Long Run’s record in the race entitles him to a place at least. Here’s hoping they all come back safe and sound….

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    I would love to see Menorah run a good race here in the absence of Captain Chris but for me its all about Cue Card and despite the yard virus Joe and Colin seem extremely upbeat about the horses chance. Could he take Kauto’s place as the Boxing day King?

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