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November 14, 2017 at 16:19 #1326719
Went to see Mite Bite in the flesh on Sunday and have to say, didn’t seem anything special to look at in the parade ring. Won as expected, but I couldn’t be having him for this. I don’t think any of the 3 he beat are ever going to be winning grade 1 races and think others would have put that race to bed a lot easier than he managed to. Jumping is too erratic still and personally would have liked to see him get another run in before Kempton to try and iron these jumping errors out.
I suspect a Thistlecrack galloping besides him and not going away will unsettle MB which can only lead to further problems jumping.
Surprised at the lack of support for Sizing John. Done everything right since stepping up to 3 miles and fully expect him to outbattle TC and MB on the run in.
Couldn’t bring myself to back a notorious bridesmaid in Djakadam.
Douvan – fairy confident he won’t see a race track until the new year
Bristol De Mai – not got the class
Cue Card – Not the same horse IMO, jocking Brennan off is trying to paper over the cracks.
Coneygree – chances are he wont make it based on the last 2 years.
The rest of the Irish contingent not in the same class as Sizing John .I certainly hope Thistlecrack comes back just as strong as before in which case I think it could be a cracking finish between him and SJ, but having your first run in 11 months being the King George, is far from ideal and could do the horse more harm than good.
Think SJ is good value at 4/1 and I have taken it
That must be his little brother “Mite Bite” you were looking at.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
November 14, 2017 at 19:03 #1326751Haha, now corrected for you Steve
November 14, 2017 at 20:21 #1326761I was under the impression that Thistlecrack was taking in the Long Distance Hurdle at Newbury before the King George
November 15, 2017 at 09:25 #1326804very interesting, where did you see that out of interest?
if he wins that though, would he not stick to hurdling for the season and mop up what appears to be an average set of 3 mile hurdlers.
November 15, 2017 at 10:15 #1326808very interesting, where did you see that out of interest?
if he wins that though, would he not stick to hurdling for the season and mop up what appears to be an average set of 3 mile hurdlers.
Colin Tizzard from ATR at the end of October:
“He will start off at Newbury over hurdles, then go for the King George. That’s the plan. We’ve been there before with him and we just want to get a run in before the King George. I don’t know where else we could run him.”
November 15, 2017 at 10:28 #1326809Thanks Frankie, must have missed that one.
Honestly think if YNWIMH turns up and Thistlecrack beats him well, the temptation to stay hurdling might change the plan.
November 15, 2017 at 15:02 #1326832Went to see Might Bite in the flesh on Sunday and have to say, didn’t seem anything special to look at in the parade ring.
Really? I thought he looked incredible. Big, tall, glistening and fit as a fiddle.
November 15, 2017 at 15:13 #1326836Thought Frodon took to the eye more.
May well have had ice on my eyes though as quite possibly one of the coldest days racing i have been to out in the stand.
November 15, 2017 at 15:23 #1326841Thought Frodon took to the eye more.
May well have had ice on my eyes though as quite possibly one of the coldest days racing i have been to out in the stand.
Oh dear Lord, it was perishing wasn’t it! Especially in that wind out course-side.
Even if you take away the fact that I thought Might Bite looked a picture, he doesn’t have a very good record fresh. He was 3rd of 5 on his racing debut, then 5th of 7 on seasonal debut the following year and beaten into 2nd when odds-on first time up last season. So, there’s every reason to think he’ll come on bundles for that outing on Sunday and be in peak form for Boxing Day – although granted if Sizing John turns up then he’ll need to be.
November 15, 2017 at 15:44 #1326844I haven’t seen Might Bite in the flesh, in paddock or out, but on the track on TV he looks like one of the best built steeplechasers I’ve seen – a typical type for Henderson. He’s a fine, big, long striding athletic animal with power to burn.
November 20, 2017 at 19:37 #1327830One of my favourite races of the year and the money is down
On Might Bite at 4s and 3s. Can’t wait
November 21, 2017 at 15:29 #1327912Sizing John’s current odds look inviting. However, reason why he’s targeted at this is the late owner wanted to go for the Million pounds bonus. So will he go for this if failing to win the Betfair? Odds in this race probably allow for that eventuality. If punters think he can win both then may be Sizing John is better value to do the double than just this second leg?
Value Is EverythingNovember 21, 2017 at 15:36 #1327914I think SJ could be vulnerable on Heavy at Haydock. His stamina isn’t copper bottomed and most of his better performances have been on decent ground.
Jacob rides Haydock better than Norton rides Chester and BDM could have his own Gold Cup on Saturday.
November 21, 2017 at 15:49 #1327915You might be right, Mark. But therefore, is SJ going to turn up here if the bonus is not on?
Value Is EverythingNovember 21, 2017 at 15:59 #1327917I think SJ could be vulnerable on Heavy at Haydock. His stamina isn’t copper bottomed and most of his better performances have been on decent ground.
He won the Irish Gold Cup on soft ground beating Don Poli, who loves it bottomless. He will be fine on Soft at Haydock and he will run a good race but he may just find a fit BDM too much to handle…
November 21, 2017 at 18:50 #1327942You might be right, Mark. But therefore, is SJ going to turn up here if the bonus is not on?
If there’s decent ground at Kempton then I think he travels over, although the Lexus might be the easier race to win at that stage of the season. I think his involvement in the King George isn’t dependent entirely on the £1m.
It’s a different matter completely when a horse has to travel over and run on Heavy ground. I think if he travels over for Haydock he’s definitely beatable and it might lessen his chances of winning either race at Christmas. It should be run at a quicker pace than the Irish Gold Cup
November 21, 2017 at 19:45 #1327945Bristol De Mai is a short price for the Betfair but 20/1 for this. Anyone who fancies him for Haydock will get a lot more value out of betting him for the KG imo.
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