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I don’t want to tempt fate Kasp but isn’t that a bit Irish?
Not trying to be overly PC here, but one could consider that comment as quite offensive.
JohnJ
Especially if this is another post to stir up the **** with Fist………your some kiddy! Style’s a bit predictable though, you should work on that.
You should space out your aggressive posts toward me a bit more then people wont notice you’re obsessed
And never dig up old posts and say "You said this" it’s kinda childish and if we all did it this would be a war zone.
Anyone could do the same. takes about 2 minutes in the Cheltenham thread to find one that now looks silly……….my favouriste poster said "Donal McCain is wasting his time sending Pedllars Croos for the Champion Hurdle.
You read it and replied to it but you never dug him up but when it came to me you did.
Kinda makes it a bit obvious you’re out to stir up things with me.
I’ll let you into a secret. You can actually disagree with people without name calling………….Mind you Sh1t stirrer is quite endearing don’t you think? Sorta suits you.
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If Long Run ( despite Master Waley-Cohen
) can run with the same verve and enthusiasm he showed in last year’s Feltham Chase, he might just give Kauto Star something to think about. What? Laugh if you want. Some of you positively guffawed when I said (categorically) that the "great unbeatable" Zenyatta would meet her one and only defeat in the Breeders Cup. In keeping with my nature, I retained a dignified and and non gloating silence afterwards.
You didn’t think you would get away with this, did you?
After the manner of her defeat, I can’t believe you’re taking credit for predicitng the defeat of Queen Z. Shame on you, H. Naughty, Naughty.
I remember you stating she would get beat after connections announced she would return (although you didn’t say when), but you were silent on the matter for the majority of the year after that.
What happened to the horse that you were so convinced would lower her colours? Lookin’ At…I can’t remember his name. However, I do remember falling for racings equivalent of the ‘great white hype’, myself….Lucky – that was it!!
Has he recovered yet from the scorch marks Big Z inflicted on his off side?
If I remember correctly, you also backed Blame. If you would like to donate some of your winnings, then visit westernunion.com and transfer a generous amount to ‘MIKE SMITH’. An even greater amount should be sent to ‘Bad Luck’, although I don’t know his / her preferred payment method.
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If gloating about that wasn’t shocking enough, my legs are like jelly after reading that the horse you fancy for the King George is…the second favoutite!!
You’re really sticking your neck out there, H.
Long Run: Decent chance. Likes Kempton. Unexposed. Makes errors. Must improve.
Can he beat Kauto Star? The potential is certainly there, but I echo what Ruby said on Saturday – Can you imagine Kauto in the Paddy Power Gold Cup with 11st 1lb on his back?
What’s the biggest winning distance ever recorded around Cheltenham?
I never read that personally but that staement by Ruby really puts thing in perspective.
Would be fun to watch I’ve never seen horses being lapped before
I don’t want to tempt fate Kasp but isn’t that a bit Irish?
Not trying to be overly PC here, but one could consider that comment as quite offensive.
JohnJ
Especially if this is another post to stir up the [expletive] with Fist………your some kiddy!
Certainly not a wind up, I don’t find your suggestion that Irish people are stupid very funny. I am certainly not obsessed with you personally but I do find great amusement in some of the idiotic posts you contribute, and completely arrogant manner you convey them. I will continue to try and add some semblance of balanced arguments to this forum as I have in the eight years I have been a member on this forum. If you don’t like it you can ignore my posts, I won’t be ignoring yours as I have already stated I get great amusement out of them, happy posting.
JohnJ
This is shaping up to be a modest contest. KS may be past his best, but he should be far to good for this lot. SE looks a reasonable EW wager, mor lilley t stay then FPTP.
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I don’t want to tempt fate Kasp but isn’t that a bit Irish?
Not trying to be overly PC here, but one could consider that comment as quite offensive.
JohnJ
Especially if this is another post to stir up the [expletive] with Fist………your some kiddy!
Certainly not a wind up, I don’t find your suggestion that Irish people are stupid very funny. I am certainly not obsessed with you personally but I do find great amusement in some of the idiotic posts you contribute, and completely arrogant manner you convey them. I will continue to try and add some semblance of balanced arguments to this forum as I have in the eight years I have been a member on this forum. If you don’t like it you can ignore my posts, I won’t be ignoring yours as I have already stated I get great amusement out of them, happy posting.
JohnJ
There you go again another provocative posts full of insults. I never said and never have said in my life Irish People are stupid. That phrase ihas been used for hundreds of years on both sides of the water and has no more truth or meaning to it than saying Aberdonians are tight with their money. People take it the way it’s meant to be taken but your just a sh1t stirrer and pick up on something no one else would give a second thought to.
Unless of course they had a reason in their own simple mind to do so.
Unbelieveable beahaviour from an adult.
I notice TAPK is not keen on Kauto or Long Run. Should we pile in now to Cooldine at 149-1 on Betfair in the hope the Durkan is used as a training race for the big one? Or is there now a change in thinking? Perhaps the King can guide his serfs towards a bit of spending money in the Christmas sales.
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If you have ambitions to end up in a homeless unit, backing Cooldine would be a good starting place.
If neither of the big two are to win (and I’ve discarded Kauto, no doubt foolishly), I like the look of Sizing Europe.
My only misgiving about that is that His Majesty has indeed indicated a fancy for Cooldine, I believe.
If you have ambitions to end up in a homeless unit, backing Cooldine would be a good starting place.
TAPK has high hopes for
Cooldine
this year,my idea of a plan was to run him in the Durkan, win that,just like connections did with Florida Pearl then straight to Kempton! One problem, the idea was to run in the Durkan 10 days ago,not 10 days before the bloody King George! If he misses the King George after winning tomorrow!
I will nail him in the Lexus,only problem there is the beast called Joncol! It looks like Riverside Theatre is a confirmed starter now he has skipped the Peterborough. Also, intriguingly, The Nightingale has not turned up at either the Durkan or the Peterborough. This strikes me as strange as the Durkan will be run on soft whereas the King George is more likely to be good.
I am beginning to think this ante post malarkey is too difficult, especially in the fortnight before the race. The insiders know which horses will run whereas we don’t. Also they know which horses are doing well in training and we don’t. Furthermore , it is sometimes hard to understand the things we do know. Why is Denman entered for the Lexus? Why do some Irish horses come to Kempton and some English horses go to the Lexus?
Sizing Europe is the one though. Confirmed runner with fair form v Kauto and decent odds 14/1 each way.
I am beginning to think this ante post malarkey is too difficult,
Kasparov, seeing how its Christmas and the season of good will i shall give you a little advice on the Art of Ante-Post betting!
1,You have to have an eye for a horse,i am convinced 90% of all top class horses look the part!
2,Only follow quality horses in quality races! i like to think every horse is trying at the Cheltenham festival!
3,Study form and watch races,paper form is not a patch on seeing things happening with your own eyes! Make Notes!
4, Learn the Pattern,that means you need to remember when and where every significant race that holds an Ante-Post betting opportunity is being run.
5,Understand Trainers mindset,they are creatures of habit,history shows you that in previous years form books.
6,Serious wagers have to be level staked,i try to bet to £100 e/w on my number 1 selections,i still have plenty interest £10 and £20 wagers though at silly prices on the machine.
7,Remember priority number 1 is not to lose,so if you are still going to make a profit on the race there are times to lay some of it off or even back 3 or 4 horses to place!
8,The key to successful Ante-Post betting is to get the biggest price available,i have had 66/1 winners who have won at 16"s on the day,so at level stakesYou can afford to lose
occassionally and you will if your horse doesn"t turn up
Cooldine
here for one!
9,Discipline is absolutely crucial,my posts show clearly i can sit and wait like an Eagle owl for a mouse (Fist)!
10,Confidence is King! Celebrate every successful winner and some of mine are legendary,some on here,butDancing Brave
and
Miesque
both at 16/1,both returned 2/1 still make me proud!
Always remeber 3 Ante-Post winners a year at double figure prices say 10/1,16/1 and 20/1 means you could lose 36 times and still have 10 times more money than you started with! Not that i do lose mind!Thanks TAPK. It’s encouraging that it appears that common sense and effort can be rewarded. However, it is a little surprising that one doesn’t seem to need some special angle to beat the market. I notice the best tipsters like Tom Segal seem to use fairly conventional approaches to form,weight etc but have a better knack of using the info to find the mispriced horse. I don’t think I have the knack just yet but with a bit more experience it might come.
It’s great to see a horse start at much shorter odds than the ones you’ve backed them at, as well!
It looks like Riverside Theatre is a confirmed starter now he has skipped the Peterborough. Also, intriguingly, The Nightingale has not turned up at either the Durkan or the Peterborough. This strikes me as strange as the Durkan will be run on soft whereas the King George is more likely to be good.
I am beginning to think this ante post malarkey is too difficult, especially in the fortnight before the race. The insiders know which horses will run whereas we don’t. Also they know which horses are doing well in training and we don’t. Furthermore , it is sometimes hard to understand the things we do know. Why is Denman entered for the Lexus? Why do some Irish horses come to Kempton and some English horses go to the Lexus?
Sizing Europe is the one though. Confirmed runner with fair form v Kauto and decent odds 14/1 each way.
Riverside Theatre is the one for me with its record round Kempton being 4 from 4, it is a young upcoming horse who loves the rack and Henderson has several he could put into this race and has chosen this animal
kautos last race in ireland i wasnt convinced,fair enough kauto won but he didnt look his devistating self,im a big fan of the horse but i wasnt that impressed by his last run,maybe hes past his best ???.we will find out on boxing day,round kempton he would have had arkle off the bridle.i cant find anything to take him on in the king george so ill watch from the fence.
River apparently ran a strange race in the Arkle, apparently all but tailed, until flying at the finish to be fifth, beaten 8 3/4 lengths, returning a SF of 156. Prefers a flat track.
Well, I hope I haven’t put the mockers on his chance, saying that.
I have been looking at Kauto’s race times. He has not lost since 2005 on a right handed track and he is very consistent over 3 miles. His King George times 2006-9 are metronomic: 6.06 (GS),6.09 (GS),5.57 (G),6.07 (GS). His Down Royal times ,both soft, are 6.35 in 2008 and 6.22 in 2010.
Long Run did 6.15 (GS) at Kempton last year. At 4 lengths per second that would be 24 lengths behind Kauto, plus another 10 lengths for 10 pounds, good enough for a place if he had run in the 2009 King George.It looks like LR might have done even better if he hadn’t made jumping errors so I can see why he is second fav.
Riverside Theatre has run 5.07 (G) over 2 miles 4 furlong 110 yds (16 fences) recently at Kempton. If he could maintain that speed he would do three miles in about 5.59. But he probably couldn’t and it would not be enough to beat Kauto’s good ground time of 5.57.
Kautp was carrying 11-10, Long Run 11-0 and Riverside 11-9. Riverside’s time appears to be within one second of the course record, but I have a feeling that stat is not very meaningful, having been achieved in a grade 3.
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