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- July 26, 2025 at 16:44 #1736849
Yes Ruby ..I never get angry, until now. I can take my defeats pretty well in a true and fair run race which this was not.
I agree with Andy and LD that this should be looked into by the Stewards and hefty fines imposed but, like them, not holding my breath.
Coolmore’s tactics at least cost Rebel’s Romance a place if not the race and you can see Will Buick just looked after him towards the finish and still finished 3rd. He’ll be back hopefully at York.
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...July 26, 2025 at 16:45 #1736850Obviously talking from his pocket Mike..
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...July 26, 2025 at 16:52 #1736852Stewards don’t appear to have seen anything wrong with the running of Continuous, presumably being blinded by the sun shining out of AOB’s backside…
July 26, 2025 at 16:54 #1736853Disgraceful tactics, likewise think the stewards should be looking into this and dishing out punishment, but of course they won’t.
Jason Weaver also came out with a typically pathetic excuse for how Continuous was ridden.July 26, 2025 at 16:55 #1736854What’s the deal with Continuous being kept in training? After his Leger win in 2023 he won a weak Royal Whip Stakes in 2024 where he had at least a stone in hand and apart from that he is playing the spoiler in just too many Group 1s.
But, i don’t think the Stewards will ever dare to look into their team tactics. Not today, not at any other track. Coolmore’s influence is just too huge….
The RP, as usual, no word about the “tactics”.July 26, 2025 at 17:00 #1736856Some one found Aidan’s tactical notebook, used some tip ex to mark over the Prince of Wales and King George tactics and switch them over
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July 26, 2025 at 17:01 #1736857Ed and Francesca hinted at it but never had the guts to say what every other person seems to be thinking.
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July 26, 2025 at 17:04 #1736859tbh I don’t think Coolmore deliberately tried to stop Rebels Romance from winning – as such. But they were again playing silly buggers. Coolmore often try to surprise their rivals in Group 1’s – often over-thinking things. In last year’s International they employed similar tactics with what people thought was their pacemaker Hans Anderson leaving City Of Troy to lead. Paid off at York, with several rival riders believing being held up was the place to be. Calandagan that time the only hold up horse making any noticeable progress from rear. Doing very well to reach a challenging position and imo coming out of the race with as equal merit as the winner.
However, Jan Brughuel is no City Of Troy. I wasn’t surprised Moore led, but I agree not going a strong pace pretty much set it up for all his rivals. Question mark whether Jan needs softer ground or at least a greater test of stamina to be fully effective at 1m4f. So imo to go that pace was stupid and got what it deserved.
I’ve criticised Continuous / Lordon in the past for being a non-trier, and again a horse who needs a strongly run 1m4f race to be effective at the trip was not asked to set a fast enough pace for his own (admittedly limited) chance. But when they turned for home Wayne Lordon on Continuous left a gap for Buick to come through. It was actually Moore who closed it when his horse “hung”.
Nice to see Coolmore’s tactics backfire.
Value Is EverythingJuly 26, 2025 at 17:50 #1736863Agree that JB needs a strongly run 12F to be seen at his best at a distance that is probably the minimum distance he requires (he was clearly lacking the pace off the home turn), I personal still think in the long run that he is probably the best heir apparant to Kyprios but I doubt they will try him with Illinois currently filling that role.
Yes it was also him hanging off the rail that impeeded RR but Continuous was the reason that RR was in the pocket to begin with and he also forced Kalpana and Calandagan to go around him to make their respective challenges but to see him tanking upside along JB with the anchors fully applied by his jockey was not a good optic.
If they planned for JB to make the running regardless then exactly what was the purpose of Continuous running in the race in the first place, other than to be ridden to be as big a nuisance to the others as he possibly could be for as long as he could be.
Yes he finished exactly where we all knew he would (pocketing £40k for his trouble) but if he was employed as a pacemaker (as we all thought was the only reason him being there was for) then everyone else would have simply come around him off the home turn as he dropped out (interfering with none of the other runners) and then it would have been an equal playing field for the other three to race.
Unsportsman like behaviour for sure as it was the clearest example of team tactics with Continuous acting as the spoiler and nobody within the BHA will call them out or hold them to account on their bs.
July 26, 2025 at 18:30 #1736865Races like that are why O’Brien is respected ….but not loved like a Cecil , I was on the 2nd and I’ll be playing her for the arc
July 26, 2025 at 18:42 #1736867Best of luck with her HDLG..

Back to the race..Has Charlie Appleby or Will Buick made any post race statements LD? I’d like to know their thoughts. They are big enough to take this sort of behaviour on the chin but what sort of signals does it send out to the smaller yards who might be lucky enough to have a horse qualify and have it’s chances wiped out by a group of folk with no moral compass (including the Stewards).
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...July 26, 2025 at 19:02 #1736870You can’t win it your not in it , the tactics today show that they didn’t really believe there horse could win on its own merit …
July 26, 2025 at 19:26 #1736874An absolute disgrace that the trainer and jockey of Continuous weren’t called in to explain the running and riding of the horse.
It looked as there was good case of spoiling tactics being used, it left a nasty taste in the mouth.
The BHA head of stewarding, Shaun Parker was in charge at Ascot today, he should hang his head in shame. They can count the number of strokes a weak female jockey can administer with a foam stick to disqualify both the horse and jockey but are incapable of even having an enquiry into possible spoiling tactics in one of the biggest races of the season.It doesn’t matter how much some people win, they don’t mind bending the rules or even “cheating” to win even more.
As it happens I think the finishing order would have been the same without the spoiling tactics but that’s not the point.
July 26, 2025 at 19:43 #1736876Rebel’s Romance to the Coolmore horses:
Just goes to show that money can’t buy class, Coolmore have used deeply unsporting rolling roadblock tactics in the past but this was probably the worst. Glad their boat JB got beaten. Poor old Continuous, having been chivvied and scrubbed along in previous races, now he does want to go forward as he understandably thinks that’s his job now…only to be anchored by the back teeth. Way to confuse a horse and sour him, AOB is a good horseman and knows this but money talks and he won’t disobey his masters.
July 26, 2025 at 21:12 #1736881I always want to rescue Continuous. Used to feel the same about Sholokhov. It was poetic justice when Hawk Wing bombed out at stud. Maybe Continuous will have the last laugh too.
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