May 30, 2018 at 17:29 #1355401darren83Participant
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Won at Newmarket which is a good pointer to this race as other winners of this race like Permain,Thomas Chippendale won at Newmarket to.Will miss the derby for Ascot it either be here or Queen Vase be a waste if go there and think this 1m4 ideal race for him be a fresh horse miss the derby.June 21, 2018 at 18:12 #1357830
Not much interest in this one so far.
I did Bandua NRNB but it seems like the Irish Derby is his destination if any this summer.
After seeing Kew Gardens bounce back to something like it I went for Delano Roosevelt here and am very confident at 7/2.
I didn’t think Epsom would suit him and 10F looked too short for him behind Hazapour the time before. Despite finishing only 6th in the Derby he was still ahead of Kew Gardens and he stands out strongly to me in a weakish looking Group 2.
Gosden is having a great meeting but that can’t help a horse to improve on its own. Raa Atoll looks poor value coming from a Leicester Novice race win last time from stablemate Photographer, his previous win was at odds-on in an awful Nottingham race.
Old Persian has a bit better form but it doesn’t bear up to scrutiny for me.
I am very confident Delano Roosevelt will swoop to outclass his field comfortably.
Delano Roosevelt 7/2
A Christmas President for the people in June.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.June 21, 2018 at 18:17 #1357832
ps I think Delano Roosevelt should go off 2/1.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.June 21, 2018 at 18:48 #1357836jackh1092Participant
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I have a very different view to you Steve.
Whilst it’s a drop in class, i think Delano is going to continue to be one of those horses who finishes well at the end of races without winning, ie, will be eyecatching a lot of times without winning, i reckon he might have other ideas. Tomorrow will test this theory again.
The problem i have is finding something to take him on with. Rostropovich was impressive at Chester when on better ground, before running not so well at Chantilly, maybe the ground is v important to him. However, the form hasn’t worked out great from his Chester romp.
Raa Atoll has a big class jump here, but could be anything.
Wells Fargo as well, looked a decent 2yo and ran ok on reappearance, without looking in anyway eyecatching.
Giuseppe Garibaldi has taken an age to win his maiden, but again looks very ground dependant, at could really run quite well.
Will take on DR with Raa Atoll and Wells Fargo.
Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!June 21, 2018 at 23:44 #1357878KevMcParticipant
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Wells Farhh Go 12/1
Was a nice 2YO and think he can take another step forward now he’s had his first run of the season.June 22, 2018 at 01:35 #1357893GingertipsterParticipant
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Delano Roosevelt may have the best form here, but looked bereft of speed at Epsom and the ground here could easily place more emphasis on it. Got my doubts whether he’ll improve until upped to the St Leger trip and therefore vulnerable to an improver here.
To me, the one who looks capable of improving is Old Persian. Around 5/1 or 11/2 worth taking each way. Looked asthough crying out for further in two listed races and quite like the form of the Newmarket Stakes. Stablemate winner Key Victory although 8th in the French Derby was only beaten around 3 1/4 lengths. Third Highbrow beaten further by Old Persian than he was by Aspetar in another listed event at Goodwood. Am also having a little on Highbrow here as a lively outsider @ 25/1.value is everythingJune 22, 2018 at 05:41 #1357898
The race tactics look obvious to me. My advice would be not to back Rostropovich because he looks a blatant sacrifice to ensure a strong pace for Delano Roosevelt.
Rostropovich has been speculated as a horse who doesn’t get 12F, so why is he here, if it is not to blaze out in front for as long as he can to set it up for Delano Roosevelt?
We saw Nelson used in that role for Kew Gardens and if we are not going to use the knowledge we gained there, I feel we are going to rue not regarding this race as the re-staging of a play we watched the other day but simply with different actors playing the roles.
It may not come off of course but it seems highly likely Rostropovich is the hare here and Delano Roosevelt is set up as Trap 1. They surely would love Delano Roosevelt to snag a 12F group race before an attempt at the St Leger?
I’ve bet Delano Roosevelt at 16/1 for the St Leger. I reckon a win here could see him favourite for the race at Doncaster over further in September.
I would be avoiding Rostropovich like the plague today.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.June 22, 2018 at 14:37 #1357983
5/2 about Delano Roosevelt looks very fair indeed and I expect him to win and therefore is going to be my biggest bet of the day. I see the main danger coming from within the same stable though: Rostropovich who should find this more ideal than the hussle and bussle of France so have backed him as well as he’s as big as 8/1.
Delano Roosevelt 5/2
Reverse exacta: Delano Roosevelt & RostropovichJune 22, 2018 at 14:42 #1357985BigGParticipant
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I think this is pretty wide open considering the favourite, Delano Roosevelt has
not got his head in front in his last 5 races. Admittedly he’s run well in good races
and he might be better than these, but 5/2 looks short to me. I’m quite keen on
Elector who ran Raa Atoll to 1 1/2L last time out at Nottingham.
Raa Atoll is second fav at 4/1, whilst Elector is available at 18/1. Considering
Elector was giving Raa Atoll 7lbs, and they are running off level weights today, I
don’t see why Elector is 14 points behind. I think he’s worth a punt.June 22, 2018 at 15:13 #1357998GingertipsterParticipant
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Yaaaaaa-hoooo!value is everythingJune 22, 2018 at 15:13 #1357999
Fav ran like a horse who had a hard race last time.
I hadn’t ever really been taken with Old Persian but looked to improve for the step up in trip. Rostropovich ran well enough, probably would have been better off being held onto a tad longer.
Probably not a vintage renewal in hindsight.June 22, 2018 at 15:15 #1358001
Having said it’s not a vintage renewal though, I can see the winner having a shout in the Leger. All the right horses in behind. Maybe fair form actually.June 22, 2018 at 15:20 #1358003
That never panned out at all like I had imagined it.
i didn’t expect the Gosden colt to make it and in the end it’s looked like all three O’Brien horses have not been suited by the way the race panned out.
Delano Roosevelt is just a plodder but I felt he had a little touch of class that clearly he doesn’t. He may do better in the Leger but that was disappointing today and they call him the lumberer, they call him the lumberer, he rumbles round and round and round and round.
Old Persian had consistent form but I just felt it wasn’t at a high enough level for this. It’s probably panned out to be a group 3 quality renewal but well done anyone who had Old Persian. In the end Raa Atoll has probably just not been quite up to the level needed.
Delano Roosevelt hasn’t paid much of a compliment to the Epsom Derby there, making a tame enough effort in moderate company. It wouldn’t be anything to put in the CV of Masar when he goes to stud anyway
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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