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- September 14, 2020 at 23:43 #1501565
No market yet……
https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/190/listowel/2020-09-23/766926
No absolute standout at this stage, but a few jumping out.
The Storyteller – I still think he has another big one in him. Another crack here at a Handicap, after his early finish in The Galway Plate, and though his mark is bordering on prohibitive here, I just can’t put a line through him.
Ben Dundee – Has made the switch from Elliott to Mullins, and last seen when running a big race in The Plate at Cheltenham. He cruised through that race until slightly hampered two out, and I like the way he ran on, suggesting the extra trip here don’t be an issue. I reckon he’s ahead of his mark too.
Spyglass Hill – Massive flop in The Galway Plate, after making a serious error, though I thought he was getting niggled before that. He looks one to forgive though, and he was going the right way last year. Worth another chance.
Plan of Attack – Ultra consistent last year, running many a big race, and definitely a horse to keep on side this season. Looks fairly treated.
Forza Milan – He would have to be considered a disappointment in The National Hunt Chase last year, never really getting into it. I think he’s “potentially” better than that though, and one to watch the market with.
Shantou Village – In the process of running a huge race here last year, when he unseated, and he was bang there at the time. Hard to rule out on that evidence, and should come here fit.
Plenty to time to change my mind, but those are the early ones of interest.
September 15, 2020 at 20:51 #1501647You know who I’ll be backing!
Possibly also WhisperinthebreezeSeptember 15, 2020 at 22:06 #1501653I certainly do lol
Whisperinthebreeze is a horse I really liked, big player if back to his best.
September 16, 2020 at 16:57 #1501708Market up……
A few of these have double entries, including The Storyteller, Robin Des Foret, Whisperinthebreeze, and Peregrine Run.
I really want to bet Ben Dundee, but I just wonder if he’s one for the other big Irish Chases in the next few months, once Mullins changes a few things with him. At 10’s I’m happy to hold off.
The 16’s for the De Bromhead pair, Spyglass Hill & Plan of Attack looks too big, while the 25’s for Forza Milan is crying out to be taken, with a view to laying off.
The one I didn’t mention was Treaceysenniscorthy, who I’ll be following this season. I’d love to see him get in, but it looks unlikely right now.
September 18, 2020 at 20:49 #1501999I’m definitely with you on plan of attack and spyglass hill Venture. Robin Des forever just never seems to finish his race. Mullins has said he struggles to get up the hill at Galway and Cheltenham, bit everytime he comes there travelling and just doesn’t go through with it.
I like Bay Hill at a price. He may not get in. First crack at 3 miles and he finishes his races really well. This race tends to go to a less exposed type more often than not, usually a horse having its first season out of novice company.
September 18, 2020 at 20:51 #1502000I shud say that in 30yrs punting I’ve never had the winner of this I don’t think. So may be better off ignoring my thoughts
September 18, 2020 at 21:38 #1502010My record patchy too Ken, but always like a go.
Still no bet for me, but happy to see shortlist reduced with Ben Dundee missing, and The Storyteller running Sunday.
Missed the 16’s mind you, on Plan of Attack.
Shortlist
Spyglass Hill
Plan of Attack
Forza Milan
Shantou Village
TreaceysenniscorthySeptember 20, 2020 at 13:13 #1502320I was going to wait until the final field is known, but I can’t resist an ew on Cap York at 50-1.
He ran an ok sort of race at Galway, and I think that from powerful connections he is too big a price.
September 21, 2020 at 01:57 #1502427Roses, that’s not the worst shout I’ve seen, 50’s does look a little big to me.
If I didn’t have as many in mind for this, I’d maybe take that myself, but I’m resigned to no Antepost this year, and a fresh look after Final Decs.
September 21, 2020 at 11:35 #1502450I get the unexposed nature of Doctor Duffy‘s profile, but off 145 he couldn’t appeal to me as a horse that potentially would be rated like 150+ if he won this. Probably his Gold Cup though so who knows.
I liked Spyglass Hill was Galway were he was PU. I would very much hope he would be capable of winning something like this. Henry won this last year with Poker Party who US in the Plate.
There’s a chance he was flattered last year, but if the 40s is actually available on Forza Milan with Coral i’ll be having a bit of that. Nice novice form and i thought he was in with a chance at Cheltenham, which was wrong, but the race has a habit of either suiting horses or the opposite. I doubt it will be though.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!September 21, 2020 at 13:52 #1502460I’ve done some figures for this race and my top three are:
Three Musketeers (14/1) – A bit hit or miss but every chance on form from first run of the season.
Spyglass Hill (9/1) – Excuse at Galway, possibly hurt himself. Solid enough form from last winter puts him right in this.
Ask Nile (25/1) – Upped in class but consistent enough and often on the premises.
I’ve got another half dozen within 3lbs of these, so tight enough.
September 21, 2020 at 15:31 #1502473As I said last night, that 50’s for Cap York looked great, and it looks just as good now, even at the 33’s.
New shortlist of three, hoping to back just two, but whatever one it, I’ll be missing the better Antepost prices.
Cap York
Plan of Attack
Spyglass HillSeptember 21, 2020 at 15:48 #1502477Price wise I would imagine that Industry SP (with BPG) will be the best way to go. Irish racing has discovered prices they didn’t know existed since ISP was introduced!
September 21, 2020 at 16:48 #1502484I think Doctor Duffy is a worthy favourite and, at 11/2, a decent sort of price right now.
I’m also very interested in Demi Plie if she runs, while Freewheeling Dylan and Kupatana tickle my fancies, with Freewheeling Dylan just having the edge in my mind.
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So don't run, just like the others always do
September 21, 2020 at 23:05 #1502513Kupatana is a bit of a nutter isn’t she? From memory I think she was like it in England too. If she can be kidded or wrestled (by new jock whose lowest riding weight is 7lbs heavier than Blackmore’s) into settling then she has the talent to be in the mix.
September 22, 2020 at 13:04 #1502813Finally came down to that three….
Plan of Attack 7’s
Spyglass Hill 10’s
Cap York 25’sSeptember 22, 2020 at 13:39 #1502823I’m scarily close to your shortlist Venture, had a bit of 12s on Plan of Attack (antep)so happy with that. Think its between him and Spyglass Hill for the win.
Three Musketeers as an e/w just seemed to get run off its feet in the plate so the extra distance will suit and I think it prefers a flatter track (won at aintree 2019 albeit over the smaller obstacles)
I’ve never been to Listowel but it certainly looks flatter than Galway and Kilbeggan on the telebox.
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