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Following the recent withdrawals of Sunnyhillboy and Can’t Buy Time from significant ante-post races according to the Racing Post JP has now purchased Karabak with the intention of AP riding at Cheltenham. Potentially with this horse, Diamond Harry and Mikael D’Haguenet the Ballymore looked the best race of the meeting but for me Karabak is now very much the outsider of the three. I would choose Robert Thornton over AP at the Festival any day of the week but particularly on horse he knows well. If you had backed Diamond Harry how would you feel if McManus had bought that and jocked-off Timmy Murphy?
If you had backed Diamond Harry how would you feel if McManus had bought that and jocked-off Timmy Murphy?
You won’t be collecting on this regardless of who the jock is
Same owner that he bought Franchoek off isn’t it,and ironically he hasn’t won since the sale when AP has been on board.
Same owner that he bought Franchoek off isn’t it,and ironically he hasn’t won since the sale when AP has been on board.
Exactly, backed this horse the past twice, wont be backing it again.
Following the recent withdrawals of Sunnyhillboy and Can’t Buy Time from significant ante-post races according to the Racing Post JP has now purchased Karabak with the intention of AP riding at Cheltenham. Potentially with this horse, Diamond Harry and Mikael D’Haguenet the Ballymore looked the best race of the meeting but for me Karabak is now very much the outsider of the three. I would choose Robert Thornton over AP at the Festival any day of the week but particularly on horse he knows well. If you had backed Diamond Harry
how would you feel if McManus had bought that and jocked-off Timmy Murphy?
I’d feel absolutely extatic if I was on Diamond Harry and AP took over from TM. Timmy nearly got DH beat last time, giving him too much to do and coming up the straight on the wrong side of the track (softer going).
Choc rides Cheltenham brilliantly, but I do think he’s been on the best horses. I don’t think AP makes many mistakes there. Can’t really see it as being "jocked off". If JP owns one AP should ride as Tony is his retained jockey. If Choc kept the ride that would be "jocking off" AP.
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Value Is EverythingSame owner that he bought Franchoek off isn’t it,and ironically he hasn’t won since the sale when AP has been on board.
Is Katchit’s form this year Choc’s fault?
Is My Way De Solzen’s form last year Choc’s fault?Franchoek is a small horse and it was entirely possible he would not train on this year. Beaten by a better horse in the Triumph who had bags of scope for further improvement, which he’s made.
Franchoek did not stay the trip last time, that is not AP’s fault.
Mark
Value Is EverythingIf, as I sincerely hope, Karabak is up to winning the Ballymore then I think there is a fair chance that McCoy will be capable of bringing him home in front.
Why do some people always want to buy all the raffle tickets in a raffle?
Can’t blame the owners for selling though.
Why do some people always want to buy all the raffle tickets in a raffle?
Can’t blame the owners for selling though.
Bit harsh. He is hardly Godolphin buying any horse who finished in the first 20 of the Dewhurst!
Perhaps he doesn’t have a Ballymore horse and would like one. He is hardly trying to buy Master Minded to guarantee himself a winner is he?
I am sure JP would probably like a Gold Cup and Champion Chase contender as well. Are we suggesting it is particularly good news that he has his minions sniffing out potential ready-made Cheltenham winners at the eleventh hour.
Whatever they say in public I suspect King and Thornton – it really doesn’t matter if you use ‘jocked-off’ or replaced it amounts to the same – will be cheesed off. It would be interesting to know if King thought about telling JP to find a new trainer.
Horses need everything in their favour to win at the Festival. The sensible decision would have been to maintain the partnership.
First of all why should JP run horses in races just because mug punters are betting antepost? Secondly, having AP on any horse is a plus not a negative. He is McManus’s 1st choice jockey and if he chooses to ride the horse fine. I’m sure King has had horses switch to his yard that suddenly Thornton has ridden, or that other King horses have improved and come a bigger race Thornton has got on them instead of Hutchison. That’s how racing. But to say the horse will be worse for having McCoy is almost laughable.
Impossible to say Thornton would have won but I suspect he would have got Karabak a lot closer than AP did. As much as he was magnificent yesterday this was a very average ride.
i think Karabak was as close as he could be, Mikael D`Haguenet looks a serious horse.
i think Karabak was as close as he could be, Mikael D`Haguenet looks a serious horse.
No doubt the winner is a very good horse and almost certainly the better of the two but on ground quicker than ideal there was a chance he could have been beaten today. Karabak was never jumping for AP and by the time he switched him off the inner the winner had got pole position.
I wouldn’t say the ground was quicker than ideal, he hasn’t faced anything but heavy or soft ground, on this evidence the ground encountered today far from hindered the winner.
I could do with watching the race again i mean you could be right but i don’t think he was particularly ridden any different today, didn’t jump all too fluently for my eye at times and for a horse which i believe from what i have seen will stay 3 miles he was losing ground and not quick enough to recover it in mid race.
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I have always liked Mikeal and im sure I am not the only one, there was a lot of doubters today but the horse has proven its powerful running style with a world class change of gears, he come over from Ireland and today he told the world what most of us have been shouting about.
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