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    With confidence building behind Charlie Hills’ Equilateral for the Commonwealth Cup it might be worth a few quid on him for the July Cup.

    A nice win at Royal Ascot would surely see him cut for the July sprint.

    I reckon he might be more like 5/1 if he wins well against his own age group and it’s not like there is an odds-on favourite at the head of the market. Other entrants will have been defeated at Ascot in the Jubilee so it could see Equilateral shorten in the aftermath.

    Foxtrot Lady finished well from the back in the sprint race a few moments ago, perhaps a little unlucky in running and unlikely to have been suited by York. Considering she was up to 94 in the rankings and said by the Racing Post to have run to 67 behind Equilateral, I highly doubt she was as poor as the Racing Post gave her against a horse who destroyed her that day. How far would Equilateral have won that sprint off 105 today?

    Equilateral 12/1 will do for me in the July Cup

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Of the 3yos he be one more intrested in though saying that not sure if 3yos good enough to beat Harry Angel and co at Newmarket.Last year strong feeling Harry Angel could beat older horses not had that feeling for that age group this season.Know Harry can flop at Ascot but return to form here.

    At a price it not shock me if Charlie Hills send BATTASH 16/1 here he said like to race him at 6f and this be ideal race for him Fleeting Sprit won this race after being 2nd at kings stands and know she had 6f form at 2.But he could try 6f

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    Can’t have Battaash at 6f after what we saw today.

    U S Navy Flag looks set to drop in trip, at 16s he could be interesting. I like the angle with Equilateral, though.

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    Dreamfield will be shorter Saturday night when he wins the Wokingham.

    But 20/1 right now isn’t great value tbh

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    INVINCIBLE ARMY 33/1

    If any of BATTASH,HARRY ANGEL or MERCHANT NAVY run i expect winner come from one of those 3 but if all not turn up then feel a shock could happen.Blue Point is better at 5f as proved at Ascot but might be able to win weak july cup so could win here but i like a 3yo instead i get feeling Sands Of Mali target is Prix maurice de gheest.And for me i feel Selection can reverse form it true got form at Ascot and did not run his race on friday.A issue with stalls handler before race not helpfull.And with 3yos having good record in race at big price i can see him bouncing back into form

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    Degaussed is it confirmed that USNF is to drop in trip??

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    #1358432
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    There’s a quote on the Rhododendron piece on ATR about him, Jack.

    #1358522
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    Doubt we’ll see Harry Angel defend his crown.
    They’d be mad to risk it when the owner has Blue Point as an able deputy.

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    I’m with Ginger here in that bearing in mind Godolphin have the favourite for the race it seems folly to rush Harry Angel into a title defence. I think the Maurice de Gheest will be his next outing.

    I don’t see any real value in anything ante-post. Blue Point looks about the right price now considering he does bring the best form into the race but at a shorter distance and the Ascot race sort of fell into his lap. Battaash won’t come here and even if he did you’d oppose him at the trip. Brando doesn’t look good enough to win and neither does Sir Dancealot. Dreamfield’s defeat (in receipt of weight) from Bacchus doesn’t scream ‘July Cup winner’. Dutch Connection has been found out at this level. Gifted Master isn’t consistent enough. Limato’s not getting any faster. Merchant Navy wasn’t exactly impressive coming out on top in a 50/50 head-bob for the Diamond Jubilee and Australian horses have a poor record on the July Course (that wraps in Redkirk Warrior). Barraquero’s on a massive recovery mission, as is Equilateral and Sioux Nation to a lesser extent. Invincible Army probably just isn’t quite up to winning at this level. Sands Of Mali doesn’t help himself and looks better on a flat track (Haydock/York). And finally, U S Navy Flag wouldn’t be certain to line-up if Merchant Navy does and even if he did, he’s has a poor preparation for this race and looks like he’ll prove hard to win with this year at any trip.

    Just my early thoughts.

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    Not usually an AP player but in the absence of Harry Angel couldn’t resist the 14/1 on offer for LIMATO.

    No idea why they have run him over 1 mile his last two outings and Newmarket is where he does all his best work being 2nd to Harry Angel last year and winning the previous year in 1m 9.97 seconds a much faster time than Harry Angel’s 1m 11.25 seconds and with Brando and Caravaggio filling 3rd and 4th places just half a length behind him I reckon that was a pretty good effort and think he will cruise home back in his old stomping ground.

    Closest rival Blue Point performs particularly well at Ascot and has lost on his only 2 visits to Newmarket on the Rowley Mile Course, although he ran a stormer to be 3rd to Churchill in the Dewhurst last year (7f) and is highly respected having defeated Harry Angel at Ascot in May this year.

    Horses for courses for me and looking forward to being there to see LIMATO coming with a late run to take on Blue Point in this years July Cup. :good:

    LIMATO – Win 14/1
    Blue Point

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    #1358560
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    Limato is a cracking price indeed Jac and I’m tempted to have a go with him

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    Race would probably have to cut up a fair bit, but if I seen any encouragement today, then I could be tempted with an each way on Sir Dancealot at the 50’s.

    #1359172
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    Still think it’ll be just beyond him, but taken the 50’s each way after that yesterday.

    #1359175
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    I see that Henry Candy has come out and said that Limato’s next race will be the Lennox at Glorious Goodwood.

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    Sands Of Mali 10/1 e/w

    Ran a screamer from a bad draw at Ascot and think he’ll go well again here. Want to take on the older horses for various reasons and he looks the value of the 3YOs.

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    @Charles Olney
    Now that Harry Angels out I’m hoping that Henry Candy will have a change of mind and run Limato.
    He loves the July Course and Henry Candy too has had lots of success there..Jac :rose:

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