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March 16, 2016 at 00:56 #1237860
An I the only one who thinks the price of this horse is madness? I’ve seen on the competition section every second person has selected it as their nap. It seems to me to make absolutely no sense. The horse is rated 115. This race is now a level weights race and not a handicap. just off the top of my head i know that In this race there are horses rated 157, 153, 147, 140 and im sure there are a few more rated 130+ in the field. How in God’s name is 115 rated horse a 5/2 favourite when it’s effectively wrong at the weights against almost all of the opposition and in some cases wrong to the tune of 3 stone. Now I know cross country is a different discipline and requires a nimble footed horse etc. And I understand that josies orders has proven form but this to my knowledge is the first level weights race it will run in and I believe it’s madness to back this horse at that price under those conditions. I’m not saying the horse is without a chance im simply trying to gain an understanding of why it isnt about 7/1 and why people are so confident of it beating all the superior opposition.
March 16, 2016 at 07:11 #1237897He has beaten Any Currancy (157) in november. I can understand the price but not the rating.
He was rated 129 and after his win, they rated him 115 …March 16, 2016 at 08:23 #1237903Un De Sceaux is the nap wexford but I done Josies Orders for competition purposes. ie price/points
Don't Eat The Pie and Don't Buy The S*nMarch 16, 2016 at 09:09 #1237922I understand Nathan I’m not aiming it at anyone in particular I’m just trying to see the logic in backing a horse in this race at that price
March 16, 2016 at 09:44 #1237929Speak to anyone involved in and around the Mullins yard and hard to believe the confidence behind Uncle Junior here,they really think he will go very close at 15. At the prices he’ll be my e/w poke. Not a race to go too mad in though as it can be hard for them to even take the right course as we well know
March 16, 2016 at 13:07 #1237985Am I alone in being worried that Baltazar King has returned, after Aintree, for this? Surely at 12, he should have been retired?
March 16, 2016 at 16:16 #1238048Speak to anyone involved in and around the Mullins yard and hard to believe the confidence behind Uncle Junior here,they really think he will go very close at 15. At the prices he’ll be my e/w poke. Not a race to go too mad in though as it can be hard for them to even take the right course as we well know
Had 80p e/w on Uncle Junior thanks to your post, I can see him now about a mile behind the others!
March 16, 2016 at 16:44 #1238064Me too Ben!!
Has Uncle Junior finished yet ???And by the way Mrsraymo backed the winner!!
March 16, 2016 at 17:22 #1238073Am I alone in being worried that Baltazar King has returned, after Aintree, for this? Surely at 12, he should have been retired?
That’s what I suggested a year ago, but you know I know nothing about horses and some morons always know it better.
March 16, 2016 at 17:29 #1238075Am I alone in being worried that Baltazar King has returned, after Aintree, for this? Surely at 12, he should have been retired?
That’s what I suggested a year ago, but you know I know nothing about horses and some morons always know it better.
If there’s one horse that loves racing and loves jumping it’s the one you believe should be retired.
If it’s wrong for Baltazar it’s wrong for every horse.value is everythingMarch 16, 2016 at 17:58 #1238084Difference between Baltazar King and “every horse” is that “every horse” hasn’t had the green screens round him after life-threatening injury in the Grand National, then been at an equine hospital for weeks recovering from broken ribs plus other injuries, all whilst being aged 11 (ie a veteran).
March 16, 2016 at 18:39 #1238108Difference between Baltazar King and “every horse” is that “every horse” hasn’t had the green screens round him after life-threatening injury in the Grand National, then been at an equine hospital for weeks recovering from broken ribs plus other injuries, all whilst being aged 11 (ie a veteran).
Loads of horses have screens put around them and come back. I remember Comply Or Die doing so before his Grand National. BK recovered from those broken ribbs and put back in to training. Had he been showing any signs of a problem they wouldn’t have run. Even went to a local x-country (I believe Point To Point) course and jumped – similar fences to today’s – well. Nobody knows where he’d have finished had he not made an uncharachteristic error today. Not as if he wasn’t well fancied, going off the 9/2 second favourite. Had he won the race we’d all be saying what a wonderful story.
If going as well at home as when at his best – then imo deserved a chance for a fairytale ending to a great career.
value is everythingMarch 17, 2016 at 10:18 #1238318Uncle Junior was dreadful. It was Paddy that told me he was flying at home “he’s like a 5 year old”. Think his heart must’ve been ruling his head as he ran no race
August 25, 2016 at 15:24 #1261109Josies Orders promoted to 1st place
Any Currency disq, now where did I throw that betting slipDon't Eat The Pie and Don't Buy The S*nAugust 29, 2016 at 01:11 #1261578Bloody typical Nath, it’s Belgian Bill all over again for me. Quantitativeeasing gets promoted to third, and I had him in a couple of Ante-Post slips, as well as on the day, dammit
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