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  • #194332
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    There’s a similar one spreading throughout various yards in Wales where the virus strikes for the first three runs and then it disappears for the fourth one.

    It’s a reverse of the O’Neill virus I think Clive.

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    Yes :lol:

    #194351
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    However by the same token he will be less than willing to advertise the fact his yard has the virus as it may lead to an exodus of horses and owners

    If there was a "virus" and the current owners were kept in the drak about it, I think their ultimate reaction would be removal anyway (at the very least)

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    Of course Clivex as you are an expert in these matters, perhaps you can let us in on the detailed veterinary reasons behind the intermittent lack of form some strings suffer from, as I know you just love doing detail.

    There is more detail on Thommos tipping line. Clive, interesting that you mention Mountain, who obviously did not fulfil his potential over hurdles. I was wondering can you name any 5yr old NH horse by Montjeu that won a race in GB or Ireland since January 1st?

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    Mountain’s loss of form had absolutely nothing to do with his training. After running unexpectedly badly in the Triumph he underwent a wind operation. Unfortunately it wasn’t a success.

    #194523
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    was wondering can you name any 5yr old NH horse by Montjeu that won a race in GB or Ireland since January 1st?

    Not really, because i barely follow breeding on the jumps. Having said that, havent seen too many montjeus on the jumps but isnt there one at kings stable?

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    was wondering can you name any 5yr old NH horse by Montjeu that won a race in GB or Ireland since January 1st?

    Not really, because i barely follow breeding on the jumps. Having said that, havent seen too many montjeus on the jumps but isnt there one at kings stable?

    Just two could be Moskova and Ned Ludd.

    #194570
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    :roll:

    #194591
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    Franchoek’s problem is that he’s too bloody slow, and always has been.

    #194601
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    Agreed, Friggo, and today can only serve to hasten his switch to 3m contests from hereon, I reckon.

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    Either that or they do a Inglis Drever and expose the horse through running too much.

    Did you mean to say that? :?:

    #194620
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    Can also add Jeu D’Espirit and Mon Chevalier to the list of Monteju progeny to win under NH rules in 2008. Whilst checking that out I came across a son of Montjeu called Autumn Promise who was bought for 125,000 gns as a 3-y-o and finished last on all 3 of his starts over hurdles. My research didn’t go as far as who the trainer was for the hurdling career so if anyone could check that out for me it would be much appreciated.

    #194622
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    :lol:

    My main pondering is why restrict things to five-year-olds, when if a year either side was allowed we could cite Blue Bajan and Hurricane Fly as Montjeu NH progeny? Strange…

    #194628
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    My research didn’t go as far as who the trainer was for the hurdling career so if anyone could check that out for me it would be much appreciated.

    :lol: ****** liar

    #194629
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    JJ O’Neill – anyone know him? :wink:

    #194639
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    To my eye Franchoek is just taking a little more time to come to himself this year – he’s still young and nice easy races over too short a trip will probably stand him in good stead in the long run. Either that or they do a Inglis Drever and expose the horse through running too much. Races like today are just what he needs, and i’m sure we’ll see the real Franchoek around March time, though where they go with him now is obviously a issue.

    Firefox, you are very knowledgable about racing but comparing todays race with regards to Alan King and Jonjo O Neil is complete bollox. Franckoek took in a fair few races last season and as you saw with the way he drifted in the market today the faces knew he wouldn’t be fully tuned up to win a handicap hurdle off top weight in heavy ground. As I say, where they go with him know is up in the air but to compare what happend today to Jonjo O Neil is a bit disrespectful to Alan King.

    Why is it Marble? Aren’t you being direspectful to Jonjo O’Neill making out that he is some kind of inferior being to Alan King?…….Alan King has had his more than his fair share of failures. It’s all part of the game

    Personally I think they are both very good trainers and none of them deserve punters critisism……100 plus trainers are a rare breed and you simply don’t achieve figures like that if you are useless no matter how many backers you have.

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    Marble,

    Inglis Drever is one of the lightest raced horses I’ve known.

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