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Had to chuckle when I read the Racing Post analysis (David Toft) of Pivotman at Goodwood on Sunday ‘it was refreshing to see different tactics tried in an attempt to claim victory’. If he wasn’t trying to claim victory what else was he doing? The horse trailed in a legless sixth of eight. It might have been ‘refreshing’ to the likes of Lord Snooty and co at Racing UK as it gave them a time filler but as for the punters who backed the horse from 12/1 to 9/2 I am not so sure.
99.9% of punters back horses because they think a horse has a chance of winning if they run in a straight line not because they know a jockey is going to do something similar to Callan. I have no problem with a jockey trying something on 20/1 shot as they may need an ‘edge’ but not on a fancied runner. I remember the famous incident with Ray Cochrane on a shortie at Lingfield – that should have been a lesson to everyone.
I’m with David Toft on this one. Horse had no great claims on form, and was clearly off for his life. Plenty of horses in the last few weeks have managed to win as a result of jockeys not following a sheep mentality. Well done for digging up an anonymous race from 20 years ago as justification for your point, btw – nice touch.
I can’t see what difference the price of the horse makes. If the jockey thinks riding it in a certain way is the best way then he should go ahead, no matter if it is the favourite or the outsider.
I can understand it being very frustrating for punters when a jockey tries it and doesn’t win; inevitably, they’ll question whether it was the right tactic. Fact is, nobody will ever know.
Would it make a difference to punters if the jockeys plans were known prior to the off? Personally, I’d always go for a jockey who’s thinking about trying to gain an advantage. They’d get my money more often than not.
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What about
PICKLED PELICAN
? today Adam Beschizza went on his own and won by 7 lengths…
Some times it pays off sometimes it don’t that’s horseracing
and another double for Dylan Thomas today
I’m with David Toft on this one. Horse had no great claims on form, and was clearly off for his life. Plenty of horses in the last few weeks have managed to win as a result of jockeys not following a sheep mentality. Well done for digging up an anonymous race from 20 years ago as justification for your point, btw – nice touch.
And well done to you for having no understanding of form. His previous Goodwood run would have made him the form pick.
And well done for only being out by 8 years but why let fact get in the way of a cheapshot. As for ‘anonymous’, not really:-
What about Barry McHugh charting a lone course in the Bunbury while the other 19 went far side?
He wasn’t really alone, the entire July Cup field followed him half an hour later.Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Jockeys have to take chances now and again. Sometimes they are right and sometimes wrong.
But there will always be those who know better!
I remember well the furore over the Cochrane ride on Keld as I was there.
I know the horse drifted but there were still some sizeable bets for it in the ring.
If memory serves me right it was its first run on the all weather and it subsequently never won another race.
Who knows , perhaps Cochrane was worried about kickback and was trying to keep it out of the way. Alternatively the horse wasnt as good as once thought as its later runs possibly showed.
Just a thoughtI can’t see what difference the price of the horse makes. If the jockey thinks riding it in a certain way is the best way then he should go ahead, no matter if it is the favourite or the outsider.
Happy to agree with that for the greater part, though I would always want to know what the rider’s thinking is predicated upon – in particular, whether they made the decision based on walking the course beforehand.
Alas, such thoughts are seldom if ever committed to the public domain before the race, of course, so we’re left instead to do our homework over time on which riders regularly do theirs.
Gary Bartley’s race-winning adherence to the inner on Middlemarch in a York claimer this time two years ago had been borne out of him and the trainer walking the section of track where the rails had been pegged inwards since the Ebor meeting, and of their unanimous conclusion that that fresh section of course represented something of a "magic strip" which had to be exploited even if no other rivals followed suit.
I don’t know how often Bartley has seen fit to plough a lone furrow down either flank in a race since then, but I’d not be in a hurry to dismiss his so doing if I ever encountered it again.
I believe Cathy Gannon is another known course-walker, invariably doing a circuit before racing, so any significant deviation to one or other side of the track that she makes during a race would be something I’d be wanting to take note of.
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David Toft is correct and Callan is generally very sound on the tactics front. Seb Sanders remains the master of the lone furrow, Tenby Lady, Halfsin, Kinecta and Spa’s Dancer all recent examples.
A highly profitable source of betting profits, particularly from 7f and upwards. Being away from the pace over sprint trips confers no advantage.
I’m with David Toft on this one. Horse had no great claims on form, and was clearly off for his life. Plenty of horses in the last few weeks have managed to win as a result of jockeys not following a sheep mentality. Well done for digging up an anonymous race from 20 years ago as justification for your point, btw – nice touch.
And well done to you for having no understanding of form. His previous Goodwood run would have made him the form pick.
And well done for only being out by 8 years but why let fact get in the way of a cheapshot. As for ‘anonymous’, not really:-
My apologies,
the race you anonymously referenced was only 12 years ago. Mea Culpa.
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