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  • #10521
    % MAN
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    AP McCoy – Dead but OK
    Jamie moore -= Good to Soft, Dead
    Ruby Walsh – Bit dead
    Denis O’Regan – very soft

    The only four I managed to catch

    #214938
    Avatar photoIan
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    Time anyone of first race? And I don’t mean 1.30 lol.

    #214939
    Librettist
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    4:02 i think, four sesonds quicker than last year anyway

    #214945
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    4:02 i think, four sesonds quicker than last year anyway

    Thank you sir.

    #214946
    apracing
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    I hand timed it at 4m 01.5s – RUK have been giving out 4m 02.92s.

    It rather depends what you define as the ‘start’, given they are on the move well before they pass under the gate.

    #214948
    The Dice Man
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    4:02 i think, four sesonds quicker than last year anyway

    Yes, but slower than every other recent year. I would think it’s definitely soft.

    #214950
    davidjohnson
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    I’d say more like good to soft than soft.

    #214951
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    I hand timed it at 4′ 01.22"

    #214953
    Aragorn
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    If its somewhere in between Good to Soft and Soft its proper ground and nobody can complain really.

    #214955
    stilvi
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    I don’t think the ground is that testing. Unusually they went a pretty slow pace in the Suipreme. The winner wants decent ground and the trainers of the second and third were of the opinion their horses wanted better ground. Beware if you are on soft ground horses.

    #214957
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    I hand timed it at 4m 01.5s – RUK have been giving out 4m 02.92s.

    It rather depends what you define as the ‘start’, given they are on the move well before they pass under the gate.

    There are no official times for jump races – the times in the RP / Raceform etc come from the on track race readers and is teh average of two or three hand times – occasionally my time is used as well.

    The timing is taken from the moment the tape is released – so when you have one of those races where the field do not set off immediately the time will be skewed.

    #214966
    Librettist
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    Did they ever actually turn on the taps at Cheltenham this year? I read there were going to but missed whether they actually did or not.

    #214968
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    I think if Tony and Ruby say it’s dead and good to soft then that’s what it is.

    I’m amazed anyone sirtiing at home thinks they know better than the guys out there.

    #214969
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    Did they ever actually turn on the taps at Cheltenham this year? I read there were going to but missed whether they actually did or not.

    They have carried out some limited watering on the New Course

    #214985
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    I think if Tony and Ruby say it’s dead and good to soft then that’s what it is.

    I’m amazed anyone sirtiing at home thinks they know better than the guys out there.

    If you want to take that view it is up to you – not all jockeys give the same view. After I posted three good ground horses filled the places in the Arkle.

    #215062
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    I hand-timed it at 4.01 but I started as they started running so does that make it towards the back end of good to soft but with a drying week to come, so it should progress through good to Kauto ground by friday?

    Maybe not a good week for soft ground horses – it looked good to me.

    #215065
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    I think if Tony and Ruby say it’s dead and good to soft then that’s what it is.

    I’m amazed anyone sirtiing at home thinks they know better than the guys out there.

    Surely if everyone was meant to trust jockeys unquestioningly Aristo, not a single punter would have backed Jered today. You shoud know more than most that connections keep things to themself if it suits them.

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