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    Avatar photoTriptych
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    Did you notice how Roger Charlton turned his back on Luke Harvey as he was waiting for him to finish the post race discussion with Atty Persse’s jockey and secondly if you are reading this EC please get rid of the presenting podium and find somewhere else to chit chat over cold coffee especially for the upcoming Guineas Meeting at Newmarket, the bright lights used by the camera team were shining in my eyes as I stood round the paddock at the Craven Meeting and I had to move and I’m sure it doesn’t help the horses that are parading around the paddock either..it has to go :yes: .
    Jac

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    #1299001
    Titus Oates
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    Yes I did Jac – precisely that. A very ‘difficult’ moment to watch. It was really blatant I felt. LH was clearly being told to ‘get in there’ by the producer but the body language etc. from Charlton spoke volumes whilst LH was evidently very uncomfortable with what he was being asked to do.

    Hopefully things will improve, but that will require the flat to see the point of a wider and terrestrial audience for horse racing.

    #1299007
    chestnut
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    “Did you notice how Roger Charlton turned his back on Luke Harvey as he was waiting for him to finish the post race discussion with Atty Persse’s jockey”

    When was this shown? I did not realise that Sandown was broadcast on Friday.

    #1299013
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    Luke’s a bit too much of a gent to go breenging in and interrupting connections they way Clare used to do. It’s a ‘duty’ that has never been done well. Why the authorities cannot set up a sponsors’ background board and make it part of the race conditions (or a trainer’s licence) that within x minutes of the winner returning to the unsaddling enclosure he or she must appear at the said board for interview (barring exceptional circumstances) I don’t know.

    No matter the structure of these broadcasts or who presents or what station they’re on, I think there’s an air of doom around them. These are they dying days of terrestrial for the sport. Make what you can of them. In ten years they’ll be fondly recalled as the last of the good old days.

    #1299016
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    It was the wrong gig for Luke and he should be given some time off. (Has he been ever present?)

    When is Francesca being unleashed ? Not sure she’ll be speaking to dad too often

    #1299027
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    I really don’t know what you guys want at the end of the day it’s a number of horses galloping round a field. Are you expecting someone to pop and give all the winners even after the waffling of the alleged ‘experts’ it ain’t going to happen. It’s just a form entertainment that you can to bet on. So get over it and just enjoy watching the horses running round a field and hope you’ve backed the one that finishes in front

    #1299050
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    I really don’t know what you guys want at the end of the day it’s a number of horses galloping round a field. Are you expecting someone to pop and give all the winners even after the waffling of the alleged ‘experts’ it ain’t going to happen. It’s just a form entertainment that you can to bet on. So get over it and just enjoy watching the horses running round a field and hope you’ve backed the one that finishes in front

    Just like football is a number of guys kicking a ball around a football field with plenty of waffling by alleged ‘experts’ going on during and after the game. ;-)
    If you love a sport you want the lowdown on how the race, game or match was won it’s not just about the betting.
    Jac

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    #1299053
    kingbenitch
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    <p abp=”282″>I really don’t know what you guys want at the end of the day it’s a number of horses galloping round a field. Are you expecting someone to pop and give all the winners even after the waffling of the alleged ‘experts’ it ain’t going to happen. It’s just a form entertainment that you can to bet on. So get over it and just enjoy watching the horses running round a field and hope you’ve backed the one that finishes in front

    <p abp=”283″>Just like football is a number of guys kicking a ball around a football field with plenty of waffling by alleged ‘experts’ going on during and after the game. ;-)<br abp=”285″>
    If you love a sport you want the lowdown on how the race, game or match was won it’s not just about the betting.<br abp=”286″>
    Jac

    I’m afraid betting is so much the force in racing today, whether it’s sponsorship, TV or the racing press…..a terrible shame especially when you see the Tote passed on to a bookmaker. It’s hard to think that sport isn’t in the grip of the bookmakers; I’d settle for a Tote monopoly tomorrow.

    #1299082
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    itv moved their Saturday coverage from itv4 to itv due to the Tour De Yorkshire but it didn’t go well just 420,000 tuned into the main channel not much more than tunes into itv4.

    #1299145
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    If you love sport you should be able to work it for yourself it’s not rocket sc

    #1299274
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    Weekend away, so only just managed to watch the Saturday Sandown show.

    Matt Chapman was more interested in mentioning the Joshua/Klitschko fight than anything else.

    On the positive side, I noticed that they used the bottom of the screen as a ‘ticker’ with pertinent info (eg Menorah’s career history of key wins, Cobden’s notable seasonal wins etc) and I thought that to be very helpful and useful info. They should do that sort of thing more.

    Of course, that could be something they would use when showing a horse in the paddock or going down to the start, which they are poor at so far. I suggest that next NH season they could mention a horse’s history a little more, below their form figures, using such a ticker. Not just ‘Menorah won this the last three seasons’ type of thing, but identifying each horse’s major triumph or relevant/important detail.

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    Seemed to be far too many bods today. Francesca Cumani appears to be a very shaky ‘fit’. It was as if they had parachuted in a member of the royal family. She might have worked next to Luck but Hayley Turner? Stoute did his infamous can’t wait to get away from the camera act. I wonder how many casual viewers they picked up today? Will not be surprised if there is some re-jigging of the schedule next year in favour of National Hunt.

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    TROY111
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    do you blame stoute, the questions sooooooo poor
    Francesca Cumani eye candy, turner not a clue, she related to mccoy

    #1299767
    stilvi
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    Yes, questions might be rubbish but Stoute just comes across as plain rude. Seems crazy to think that at one time he was trying to get a television job.

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    wordfromthewise
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    Early days but Cumani does not look the answer here on this showing…..she’s just an over polished talking head with very little passion or insight coming through.
    Dettori had clearly done no homework and is trading on his name and didn’t lift things.
    As if it needed it Chapman is still spoiling the whole thing with his total inability to bring any gravitas to absolutely anything or whip up excitement in the way McCririck used to do,even if it was in a marmite sideshow way…..McCririck could do it Chapman can’t.
    Bell and Chamberlain are just about acceptable hires for this gig but maybe not in their current roles but everybody else represents lazy, unthinking recruitment by ITV.

    #1299791
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    <p abp=”460″>Yes, questions might be rubbish but Stoute just comes across as plain rude. Seems crazy to think that at one time he was trying to get a television job.

    Looking at the downward spiral in racing prese=ntation, I can understand why he might have thought getting a job would be a doddle. :-)

    #1299793
    kingbenitch
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    <p abp=”108″>Early days but Cumani does not look the answer here on this showing…..she’s just an over polished talking head with very little passion or insight coming through.<br abp=”109″>
    Dettori had clearly done no homework and is trading on his name and didn’t lift things.<br abp=”110″>
    As if it needed it Chapman is still spoiling the whole thing with his total inability to bring any gravitas to absolutely anything or whip up excitement in the way McCririck used to do,even if it was in a marmite sideshow way…..McCririck could do it Chapman can’t.<br abp=”111″>
    Bell and Chamberlain are just about acceptable hires or this gig but maybe not in their current roles but everybody else represents lazy, unthinking recruitment by ITV.

    When I first saw Cumani, I thought it must be ladies day, I’d have much preferred her in her ‘mucking out’ garb. I wasn’t watching when Dettori was introduced and when I did see hime I thought it was the Muppet Show. Chapman…..I clear the room of anything heavy before I switch on. I think if they’re limited to who they have, I’d put Bell in Chamberlain’s place and Chamberlain out to grass, along with the ITV stooges who selected the cast.

    Yet another poor presentation and they don’t even seem to be aware of it.

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