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    media.britishhorseracing.com/images/photofinish/hireswatermark/2016_14850_0.jpg

    Would this be acceptable to the American racing public? Millions of pounds at stake on every race here yet we are still in the dark ages here regards photo-finishes. There was a dead heat at about the same time at Cheltenham yet on the print you can’t see the head of the horse on the far side, is that why the judge give a dead heat? Where was the mirror image?

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    It says the link is unavailable, Yeats.

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    #1272596
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    My fault Nathan, should be okay now.

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    Looks awful

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    Totally unacceptable in this day and age. Is that Bebechenko and Old Harry Rocks in there, supposedly seperated by a nose ?

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    I wouldn’t get too aerated about it. It’s a jpeg file that’s probably been reduced in bytes for display purposes, has definitely been cropped at the top and is also lifted from the judge’s computer where he would have adjustments and tools to analyse the original ‘print’.

    Mike

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    They can put that line anywhere

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    I wouldn’t get too aerated about it. It’s a jpeg file that’s probably been reduced in bytes for display purposes, has definitely been cropped at the top and is also lifted from the judge’s computer where he would have adjustments and tools to analyse the original ‘print’.

    Mike

    Funnily enough betlarge I’ve just had an email from the BHA agreeing with you – It goes –

    Dear yeats,

    While understanding your concern about the quality of photo finish prints I can assure you that your fellow forumite betlarge is 100% correct. While you may consider that the quality of the photo finish prints in America is preferable and that justice should be seen to be done with millions of pounds at stake, I can assure you it is not necessary here.

    We have the highest integrity standards from the Chairman to the teaboy here at the BHA and while we have had minor blips over the last few years –

    eg When the whips fiasco was raging a few years ago making up stories of what the top jockeys had said in support of my new whip rules.

    The Matthew Lohn fiasco in disciplinary panels.

    Doctoring stewards enquiries after the event like Banditry at Doncaster.

    Wrong distances for races.

    However despite these minor blips I can’t recall more than 2 photo finish judges losing their jobs through calling the wrong result in recent years, Calamity Jane (frequently) & Smudger Smith (clever dick) although one or two more including Felix Wheeler have come close.

    There are even people who believe that we can put the finish line any where we want but I can assure you we have people of the highest integrity who line up the finish line for every meeting and I can tell you I’ve not known them get one wrong yet.

    your sincerely

    J Steer

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    There are even people who believe that we can put the finish line any where we want but I can assure you we have people of the highest integrity who line up the finish line for every meeting and I can tell you I’ve not known them get one wrong yet.

    The line across the photo is not the winning line, it is merely a pixel-width measuring tool for clarity. The entire photo is the winning line, occurring between two fixed digital cameras of extremely narrow width. Short of being physically dug up and placed elsewhere, it cannot be ‘moved’.

    The rest of your comments, whilst raising valid points about historic ineptitude, have absolutely nothing to do with my original post.

    Mike

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    They can put the horses heads anywhere

    #1272671
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    They can put the horses heads anywhere

    What??!

    Mike

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    They have everything to do with your original post betlarge, as the BHA have shown time and again that they are thoroughly untrustworthy and the betting public are surely entitled to better standard of photo finish print than currently provided. They put enough money into the game.

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    the betting public are surely entitled to better standard of photo finish print than currently provided. They put enough money into the game.

    ‘Entitled’ seems to be a word people use a lot nowadays. The technology uses a single pixel sequential image that due to it’s very narrow aperture already expels a lot of light from the picture. This was compounded by a race finishing at about 4.10pm on a dank and dark evening.

    I very much doubt you’ll get a better picture using any technology currently available under such circumstances. And again, this isn’t the exact image the judge will have viewed.

    The only possible solution would be hold racing earlier. I don’t believe that RaceTech are using old or outdated equipment unless you know otherwise?

    Mike

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