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    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    Paul Struthers, spokesman for the British Horseracing Authority, said: "It’s the responsibility of the French authorities, particularly because Fallon is based in Ireland. There’s no reason why we’d know or need to know

    I think that is a dreadful attitude!

    Does this mean if he is suspended by the authorities in France he will be able to ride in England or does the ruling apply here?

    If a known abuser of drugs is allowed to ride here without some action taken then that is a disgrace.

    Surely they should be more responsible than that if he is to ride in England in the future.?

    Someone spoke about his love of racing and horses in another post……..Perhaps he should offer to pay the costs of being tested before and after every meeting to ensure people he is not riding while coked out his head……or even touching the stuff for that matter.

    In fact the BPA should make it compulsary for anyone returning from a ban……costs them nothing and keeps the game clear of drugs.

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    Can’t disagree with anything you say there FOF

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    Struthers is only referring to the fact of the positive test – and he correctly states that there’s no requirement for the French to report this to any other racing authority until such time as the ‘B’ sample has been tested and an enquiry carried out.

    If Fallon is banned by the French authorities, then that ban would apply world wide, exactly as it did when he was given a 6 month ban for the same offence previously.

    This is the precisely the same process that applies to drug tests in any sport – a positive test isn’t made public (at least not by the testing body) until the second test has also been completed.

    Preventing leaks once the first positive test has been reported to the individual concerned is a problem that no sport has solved!

    AP

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    Tony25
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    Fist of fury writes :Does this mean if he is suspended by the authorities in France he will be able to ride in England or does the ruling apply here?

    Well he was suspended by the authorities in England but was still aloud to ride in France and Ire come to that!!

    If the offence is drugs related and he receives a ban it will be international as is the case in all sports!!

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    Thanks for clearing that up guys.

    Swings and roundabouts then………don’t get you one way they will get you another.

    He will no doubt, if the test is positive he will probaly be suspened for as long as they can get away with. If they overdo it and give him room to appeal he will so probably the 18 months they forecast won’t be far away.

    They also say it would not be the end of his career…….I would Imagine there is a good chance we won’t be seeing see Mr. Fallon ride again….I hope he cleans his act up and does but I think it’s unlikely on both counts.

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    I think, without putting words into his mouth, that FOF was referring more to the tone of Paul Struthers remarks. Struthers may be technically correct but something along the lines of ‘we will be monitoring that situation closely and taking any necessary action as and when appropriate’ might have been better, particularly in the current climate, than ‘It’s the responsibility of the French authorities’.

    Given the recent performance of Struthers and his team its probably just as well that the French are handling this one.

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    If a jockey from Ireland fails a drug test in France, why on earth would you expect the racing authorities in Britain to be immediately informed?

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    Bacause that jockey has a UK licence and riding under the influence of drugs presents a clear health and safety risk.

    There should be compulsory international disclosure of such positive tests to all other registered/recognised authorities within racing.

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    Exactly! it would be totally irresponsible of the French/Irish/English or anyone for that matter not to inform all racing authorities.

    Anyway they know now, so lets just wait and see what happens. Don’t want to have too much egg on my face if it comes back negative :lol:

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    That jockey doesn’t have a UK licence and hasn’t ridden in the UK in over 12 months.

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    Swings and roundabouts then………don’t get you one way they will get you another.

    Are you saying that this positive test is somehow part of a UK racing vendetta against Fallon?

    Steve

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    Of course not… the only way they could do that is stick some coke up his nose and shove him on a horse. :lol:

    let’s just say he is hardly flavour of the month with either of them.

    You have to ask yourself how much if any influence do the British authorties have with their French equivelant to answer that one.

    I wouldn’t have a clue :roll: maybe you can tell me?

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    The only glimmer of light for him is that it’s reported that he’s tested positive for pure cocaine, not a metabolite, which could mean contamination of the sample. Usually if you take the drug they find the metabolite. If he did take coke again after all he’s been through, he needs shooting.

    #129732
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    or needs more coke :lol: hate to be in his shoes right now

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    let’s just say he is hardly flavour of the month with either of them.

    Either of who?

    Again, you’re implying that there’s something going on here other than a failed drug test.

    You have to ask yourself how much if any influence do the British authorties have with their French equivelant to answer that one.

    Why?

    Why wouldn’t I assume the French run their own drug testing programme?

    You’re making a lot of insinuations that “they’re out to get Fallon”.

    Would you like to come out and say who’s out to get him, why they’re out to get him, and how are they doing it?

    Steve

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    You seem hell bet on drawing me into an argument… well not today mate the stewards are watching and you know what they are like, when you get on the wrong side of them, or are you totally naive?

    #129773
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    You seem hell bet on drawing me into an argument… well not today mate

    Ok.

    I that case, I’ll just say that I think your suggestion that this drug test is racing’s revenge for losing the court case is daft beyond belief.

    Steve

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