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    Jonibake
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    Mars badly needed a change of scenery and hopefully he’ll find success now. I think the way he has been placed this year was a masterclass in picking the wrong race time after time, at a myriad of trips, for a horse who only had a maiden win behind him coming into the season.

    Yes – they weren’t exactly "feeling their way" with him were they?

    You get the feeling they just have too many good horses to really give enough individual attention to the ones like Mars. He will be much better off at De Kock’s.

    I was thinking that the other day about Al Kazeem. A horse who as a 3 year old was getting beat in Group 2’s and 3’s. Then he had a setback as a 4 year old after winning the Jockey Club. I remember they had him fit for the back end of last year but made the decision not to run him and give him just a little bit more time so he would hopefully come back good this year. What a masterpiece of training by Roger Charlton. How do you think Al Kazeem would have been trained if he had been at Ballydoyle? Or am I being very harsh?

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    Mars badly needed a change of scenery and hopefully he’ll find success now. I think the way he has been placed this year was a masterclass in picking the wrong race time after time, at a myriad of trips, for a horse who only had a maiden win behind him coming into the season.

    Yes – they weren’t exactly "feeling their way" with him were they?

    You get the feeling they just have too many good horses to really give enough individual attention to the ones like Mars. He will be much better off at De Kock’s.

    I was thinking that the other day about Al Kazeem. A horse who as a 3 year old was getting beat in Group 2’s and 3’s. Then he had a setback as a 4 year old after winning the Jockey Club. I remember they had him fit for the back end of last year but made the decision not to run him and give him just a little bit more time so he would hopefully come back good this year. What a masterpiece of training by Roger Charlton. How do you think Al Kazeem would have been trained if he had been at Ballydoyle? Or am I being very harsh?

    You’re probably right Joni – he more than likely would have followed the Mars route to De Kock’s. Horses like Al Kazeem are the exception rather than the norm though and rightly or wrongly Ballydoyle ship off those who aren’t cutting the mustard. However, one Duke Of Marmalade did not have an altogether different 3 yo campaign to Mars and look what Ballydoyle did with him. I assume it’s a case of if the price is right Ballydoyle let them off.

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    Horses like Al Kazeem are the exception rather than the norm though and rightly or wrongly Ballydoyle ship off those who aren’t cutting the mustard.

    Very true THM although there are the likes of Stoute who used to make improving 4 year olds an art form.

    It’s not that Ballydoyle can’t do it – St Nic is testimony to that as is Declaration of War – but I suppose they would be the exception as well.

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    It was probably a case that he wasn’t going to fit into their stallion roster, even if he could have won G1 for them when he was 4. No doubt he will be standing in South Africa in 2015. Coolmore still own a share in him

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