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    insomniac
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    A little light topic for lounge lurkers to ponder.

    #103840
    The Market Man
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    No to both in my opinion. All ancient myth!

    #103841
    dave jay
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    Yes .. there is a God.

    #103842
    lollys mate
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    I’m here DJ !

    #103843
    rory
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    …well he’d be entitled to be, wouldn’t he? So much power, so little to learn…..

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    cormack15
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    depends on what you mean by ‘life’. If you define ‘life’ as including a conscious self awareness of your own existence then, no. If, however, you define ‘life’ as the ongoing prescence of ‘your’ energy within the universe then yes, absolutely, that is an indisputable physical law.  

    #103845
    Drone
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    God = Universe = Nature

    We are all (animate/inanimate) part of this God and this God is part of us.

    Benedict Spinoza:<br>"God: otherwise Nature. Nothing exists but God. God is one, that is, only one substance can be granted  to exist in the universe…whatsoever is, is in God, and without God nothing can be, or be conceived"

    Walt Whitman:<br>"I hear and behold God in every object…why should I wish to see God better than this day? I see something of God each hour of the twenty four, and each moment then. In the faces of men and women I see God, and in my own face in the glass"

    Ralph Waldo Emerson:<br>"In the woods, we return to reason and faith. There I feel that nothing can befall me in life – no disgrace, no calamity which nature cannot repair. Standing on the bare ground – my head bathed by the blithe air and uplifted into infinite space – all mean egotism vanishes. I become a transparent eye-ball; I am nothing! I see all; the currents of the Universal Being circulate through me; I am part or parcel of God"

    Right on. The meaning of life?…no idea but it sure is good

    #103846
    dave jay
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    Grasshopper  Posted on 9:09 am on Nov. 24, 2006<br>If there is, he’s a bit of a w*nker.

    <br>.. not true, indifferent to Man’s plight, IMO.

    #103847
    Maxilon 5
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    Thank’s for putting this thread up, Insomniac.

    Always wanted to write about Pascals Gambit on the forum as we are all gamblers.:biggrin:  

    Top French philosopher Blaise Pascal, (a student of Game Theory), argued that it is a shrewd decision to believe in God because the expected value of believing that God exists, (i.e. entry into Heaven) is always greater than the expected value resulting from non-belief, (i.e descent into the fires of Hell).

    In other words, a wonderful bet to nothing.;)

    Cheers

    Max

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    SwallowCottage
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    This guy Pascal sounds like another Eric Cantona;)  

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    graysonscolumn
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    Drone, would you happen to be a Pantheist, perchance? The quotes listed seem consistent with such thought as far as I understand it….

    gc<br>

    The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.

    #103850
    dave jay
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    I’m a big fan of Pascal Max .. him and those that discovered the universal constants.

    GH, the notion of that God might be useful is quite a modern one I think.

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    Drone
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    Quote: from graysonscolumn on 5:06 pm on Nov. 24, 2006[br]Drone, would you happen to be a Pantheist, perchance? The quotes listed seem consistent with such thought as far as I understand it….

    Yes, specifically a wishy-washy, undogmatic, non-commital belief in Naturalistic Pantheism.

    Goes some way to satisfying those not infrequent idle moments spent pondering the Big Question: ‘what’s it all about then’

    If belief in a deity equates to spiritual uplift, a sense of belonging and peace of mind then the great outdoors; the natural world; earth, wind and fire; and the night sky certainly evoke those emotions in me and always have done.

    Illicit alkaloids were once the quick fix; pantheism the answer (sort of)

    #103852
    dave jay
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    .. quality Blake Drone.

    #103853
    insomniac
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    Sadly, I think there’s no such thing as god, and whilst it’s nice, even comforting to think of some kind of existence after we kick the bucket, I fear that’s just wishful thinking.<br>The "one-ness" with nature and the universe angle is nice but even deep thinkers / philosophers can over-egg the pudding. Just because many things in nature and the universe are amazing doesn’tmean they  have any great spiritual significance.<br>The belief by the main Christian religions that god made us in his own image always seemed deeply flawed to me. If there is a god and he was omnipotent maker and master of everything, why would he need kidneys, toenails or eyelashes?<br>Another sham Christian line my teachers used to spin was that "god moved in mysterious ways" whenever the idea of a benevolent, loving Christ was questioned in relation to wars, famine, crime and natural disasters.<br>Unfortunately, as much as I’d like there to be an afterlife with a forgiving creator, it’s all just a human "comfort blanket".  

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