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I’ve been mulling over this race for some time and still find it a little hard to believe that Dermot Weld will actually run both horses.
If they both show up on decent ground it certainly looks a Dermot Weld 1-2 with Profound Beauty the obvious pick of the two, on a line through Age Of Aquarius she has the beating of Rite Of Passage and the trip will suit her best of the two, but I hear for Ireland (Thanks to thehorsemouth) that there’s already been heavy rain this week and considering the mare ran her only poor race in this race last year on heavy going it wouln’t suprise me one bit if she was pulled out of the race. Rite Of Passage acts well on heavy ground and if the going is soft or worse and the race becomes a stamina test it would suit him perfectly.
I still feel The Arc would be a better option than The Melbourne Cup for Profound Beauty, if so her next race is very important, she wouldn’t want a slog on unsuitable ground
Incidentally Rite Of Passage is set to conceed her 7 lbs in The Melbourne CupIf they both show up on decent ground it certainly looks a Dermot Weld 1-2 with Profound Beauty the obvious pick of the two
Unlike Rite, Profound never raced more than 8 runners, which might have a negative affect. Rite also beats her odds, and obviously holds an advantage over her. still I assume both of them to run the race.
If they both show up on decent ground it certainly looks a Dermot Weld 1-2 with Profound Beauty the obvious pick of the two
Unlike Rite, Profound never raced more than 8 runners, which might have a negative affect. Rite also beats her odds, and obviously holds an advantage over her. still I assume both of them to run the race.
She was run in several races of 12 or more runners , of the last four of these she won three including two at The Curragh and was 5th in the other….The Melbourne Cup (27 ran) beaten under 3 lengths
Race comments from the 2 mile race
"Raced in 10th, 4th towards outside 2f out, went 2nd 1 1/2f out, lost 2nd approaching final furlong, one pace ""Dermot Weld has always been a man to respect in this race, so it was little wonder that punters backed Profound Beauty heavily in the days leading up to the race. Ridden by Glen æMakybe Diva´ Boss, she was never too far away but appeared to lack the stamina to get home. The jockey was worried before the off that she worked like a pacey type, so she does need to prove that 2m is within her range."
As a 3-Y-Old she was beaten twice in big fields, she was 2nd of 21 and 5th of 15 in a Group One over an inadequate 8 furlongs
She was run in several races of 12 or more runners , of the last four of these she won three including two at The Curragh and was 5th in the other….The Melbourne Cup (27 ran) beaten under 3 lengths
Thanks for clearing that up for me, I obviously got it all wrong, but I still think he will run them both.
As far as odds, my money is on Rite.From the form I’ve been doing i have Sans Frontieres right in this race.
He looks to be improving with every run and with only eight starts under his belt then he has plenty of up-side left.
Being in Oz I can only go by what i see in the replays but can someone that goes to the track please make a comparison of Sans with both PB and Rite when they were at Sans experience level. cheers in advance
The Curragh will be like the Bog Of Allen by Saturday. It hasn’t stopped raining here in the Shortgrass since Sunday evening.
The Curragh will be like the Bog Of Allen by Saturday. It hasn’t stopped raining here in the Shortgrass since Sunday evening.
In that case hold all AP bets on Profound Beauty, the more it rains the less likely it is that she’ll run.
Conditions will be not be a problem for Rite Of Passage, he’s proven on dire groundImperial, how much rain have you had up there?
We had 3 inches between Sunday night and yesterday here in Wexford, but the land is still as hard as a road. Obviously I can’t comment on the weather up there but given the dry spell we’ve had recently it’ll take an awful amount of rain to soften the ground.
It was pishing down incessantly all day yesterday. The showers were a bit more sporadic today but still very wet all the same.
I’d describe the gorund localy as yielding at the moment but it wouldn’t take much more rain to turn it to soft. Tomorrow and Thursday are supposed to be dry enough but there’s more heavy rain due on Friday evening.
From Racing Post……
IRISH FIELD ST LEGER favourite Rite Of Passage is to miss the Curragh Group 1 on Saturday after failing to please trainer Dermot Weld in a gallop on Wednesday morning, leaving Profound Beauty the 9-4 ante-post favourite for the race.
Weld said: " Rite Of Passage, ridden by Pat Smullen, worked over ten furlongs this morning. I just wasn’t 100 per cent happy with him, so he will not be running in the Irish St Leger.
"Profound Beauty is very well and will run in the race, providing we don’t get a lot more heavy rain."
I never did expect them both to run, see earlier posts. If the rain keeps off the mare is a penalty kick
He’ll be back over timber now presumably?
Hard to see DK sending him to Melbourne now. What else is left for him on the flat? The Cadran?
Hmmm Dermot Weld might be pulling the wool over our eyes a bit.
Melbourne could very well be still on with Profound Beauty swansong on Saturday
The Cup currently carries a $500,000 bonus to the owner of the winning horse from the group one Irish St. Leger, run in September, if it then wins the Melbourne Cup in November.
Goes a long way to explaining MC entries in the ISL.
Rite has enough weight though so the penalty risk is not worth him running.
Sans and Beauty can expect up to 1.5kg penalty should they win taking their MC weight to 56.5 and 55.5 respectively.
Still the 500k bonus is a big carrot.
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