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- April 8, 2023 at 15:17 #1642712
Last year’s winner, Lord Lariat is out, due to an injury.
April 9, 2023 at 11:41 #1642773Added Now Where or When (EW) 20/1 (6 places)
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.April 9, 2023 at 15:23 #1642790My main hope here is Angels Dawn + I’ve had a proper bet at 11-1, as I’ve not had too many bets recently.
I think that Champagne Platinum is worth a bet at 40-1, + finally an ew punt on Milan Native at 100-1
April 9, 2023 at 16:09 #1642792A pity there’s only one GB entry as the field is much of a muchness and I’m sure one or two stayers from this side of the Irish Sea could make an impact. Philip Hobbs must have been spitting feathers having been number 31 in the field which made him first reserve, really useful when there’s a sea in between you and the course!
My figures for this year’s race:
176 Ash Tree Meadow
174 The Goffer
171 Real Steel
170 Stumptown
168 Max Flamingo
168 Panda Boy
166 Defi Bleu
165 Must Be Obeyed
164 GevreyThe front four have all won or run very well in big fields which ia key pointers. Stamina might be the query but there are so few races of this distance in Ireland that it’s tough to decide anyway, but there are no strong reasons to put me off any of these. I go with Ash Tree Meadow, The Goffer, Real Steel and Stumptown agaisnt the field, at SP since there’s s*d all early prices showing at the moment!
April 9, 2023 at 19:09 #1642808Defi Bleu and Milan Native are my 2 e.w plays , Defi like to be running into form and Milan is just getting to well handicapped not to have a play
Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026
April 9, 2023 at 19:16 #1642809My only bets for tomorrow – saving most of my ammo for the 3 days at Aintree.
3 in this; all win only, BOG.
Defi Bleu 20s
The Goffer 16s
Amirite 14sApril 9, 2023 at 22:21 #1642814Espinito Bello
Amiriti
Defi BleuVf x
April 10, 2023 at 03:23 #1642828Have to agree with Wilts and Viking above, I think Amitite looks
well in for this and I think the extra distance should bring about
further improvement.Amirite 14s on the exchange.
April 10, 2023 at 09:07 #1642833I was quite sweet on Royale Pagaille for Aintree, so I’m a little disappointed that they’ve sent him here instead. I’m even more disappointed in myself for deciding to wait until the morning to back him as he appears to be the plunge horse of the race

He’s the classiest horse in the race who knows how to give weight away in the mud, so I shouldn’t be too surprised that he’s come in for support. He’ll be my sole go on this as I keep my powder dry for Aintree.
April 10, 2023 at 09:49 #1642835.
April 10, 2023 at 11:01 #1642839My ew picks…
Angels Dawn 12-1. 5 places
Thedevilscoachman 10-1. 5 places.
Stumptown 10-1 bog 6 placesGood luck all.
April 10, 2023 at 11:04 #1642840Plenty of form and trends about but the fact is you often just need a dour stayer to win this. The market leans towards the ‘on the up’ horses but while a few of them look very promising this trip is an unknown.
I’ve given a chance to Defi Bleu e/w. Using Betfair’s ‘Edge’ I took 40/1, 5 places (so watch him come 6th!).
He’s far from reliable but won at this meeting last year and has had some good races in defeat this year, notably over 3m4f in both the Cork National and the Grand National Trial at Punchestown in which he finished strongly both times. I’d prefer he hadn’t went to Cheltenham but he ran ok there too. A feather weight and a 5lb claimer, if he can keep in touch he could finish stronger than others.
I’m also drawn to Max Flamingo who will have been targeted at this all year and could easily improve on his 7th last year where he didn’t get the most straightforward of trips. 33/1
April 10, 2023 at 11:09 #1642841The market is very lively at the moment, lots of fluctuations..
Seeing the way that Cheltenham festival runners have performed in the last two days, decided to give them the lines mans elbow.
Espanito Bello 18/1 e/w 7 places
Busselton 33/1 e/w 7 places
The Devils Coachman 11/1 e/w 6 placesAll for fun
April 10, 2023 at 11:35 #1642843Going on the trends of won over 3 miles, won right handed, rated under 144
Iv gone with
Stumptown 9.4
Angels dawn 16.0
Panda Boy 16.50A little worried the top two had a hard race in the kim muir but gonna stick with the trends
April 10, 2023 at 11:53 #1642844Ash Tree Meadow and Fakiera are non runners
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.April 10, 2023 at 13:37 #1642851Once bitten, twice shy- I hadn’t actually backed Ash Tree Meadow before he was pulled.
I’m going with Dolcita ew- by the same sire as Burrows Saint and Gaillard du Mesnil and the same damsire as Royal Pagaille; her half sib was a running on 5th in a Grand Steep and hopefully she didn’t have too hard a time after her chance had gone at Cheltenham when she had to jump over Riviere d’Etel and Jordan Gainford’s heads. Also has the assistance of Danny Mullins.
I’ll add a little ew on Gevrey, although it’s soon enough after his Cheltenham efforts, and Busselton who can run into a place without harming his mark for Aintree next year.
Good luck all
April 10, 2023 at 13:48 #1642853I have to go with The Goffer
done me a favour at the DRFGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
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