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  • #1521713
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Well done Jeff, good call that

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    10 wins from 10. Won by 10 lengths. All the tens :-)

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    Thank god Honeysuckle isn’t trained by Mullins.

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    Given he already has Concertista and Benie, and very little 2m Champion hurdlers, i’m not sure the outcome would be different here Tatling…..

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    She would be in the Mares if she was trained in Closutton. You are nuts if you think otherwise.

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    What would happen with Concertista and Benie then? When you’ve already got a strong pack in the hurdle and chase but not very much in one of the Championship races?

    Laurina?
    Annie Power?

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    I took a bit of criticism when I queried the Official View that Saint Roi was unlucky behind Abracadabras earlier in the season.

    I think it is fair to ask: what was Saint Roi’s excuse yesterday? And why did he finish even further behind Abracadabras?

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    Saint roi has ran out of excuses , I said the day that Abra beat him that I didn’t believe he was unlucky , he won a hcap well at the festival but he,s not convincing at this grade , they’ll prob take there chance in the champion but if he was mine he,d be going back up in distance , hezs not quite quick enough

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    Agree. I backed him in the County but I have learned over the years that horses which bolt up in strongly run, big field handicaps find it a whole different ball game when they are running in smaller field graded races against better horses.

    He may not even run in the Champion. McManus has two better candidates in Epatante and Buveur D’Air.

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    If you had him cork where would you go with him ? , personally I think the aintree hurdle would be perfect

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    Yes, I was thinking Aintree Hurdle. Epatante will clearly not go there and Buveur D’Air has been beaten in it even at his peak, so maybe he would be McManus’s best chance in the race. Although I am not convinced he would be up to winning it.

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    Thank you GaG and VtC

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    Cork, because he’s ran a very bad race. He finished a nk behind Aba the time you are talking about.

    Aba was hammered at xmas, and had the stable form excuse. What’s to say Saint Roi won’t have something appear? Wait + see.

    End of the day, this Aba vs Saint Roi forum debate is bizarre, neither are good enough on what they’ve shown.

    Aba was beaten 10l yesterday too…..he’s hardly increased his CH credentials….

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    I did not suggest Abracadabras did enhance his CH credentials. But I would still back him in any match bet with Saint Roi.

    I am not sure Saint Roi ran a bad race. I think he ran as well as he can. The stable could not be in better form. Honeysuckle is just better and that 7lbs mares allowance meant everything else in the race had an impossible task. And she was backed like defeat was out of the question.

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    Jack Abra scopped badly at Xmas which explained the run , if you watch yesterday’s race he wasn’t knocked about at all , prev chelt fest formlines are always worth there weight in gold and it has to be remembered Abra is the only horse to give shiskin any type of race , personally I think he,s a great e.w bet , yesterday honeysuckle ran like a champ hurdler , however the prev race in which she hung on from Ronald pump wouldn’t win 1 , I just think something might tap her for speed

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    HDLG, as i said he had the stable form excuse- i’m aware he did. That wasn’t the point i was making.

    He was hammered anyway and when a horse has a bit of a dubious attitude, not being knocked about isn’t something i consider much. Aba is a horse we’d all suggest is a very strong travelling type, and to be honest, the jockey did get to work on him to no avail.

    Fair enough if you think he’s going to place, but for me you’re racing for 1 place behind the two mares at this stage…

    Honeysuckle was having her debut at Fairyhouse this year so i wouldn’t take that form literally, also Pump was race fit and is no average horse.

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    ” He was hammered anyway and when a horse has a dubious attitude ” , Jack he scopped badly , not stable form , he was ill therefore you have to put a line through the run , as for dubious attitude when and where did he show that , I’ll make the point again he is the only horse to give Shiskin a race and he also got as near as anything has to Envoi Allen , first time out even though he got to the front to early he ground out the win , to each there own but I have no fears regarding his attitude

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