I need an informative website

[Leeknowles1]

Im trying to work out Flatstats.co.uk’s system builder so i can try and find out, but if anyone can help would be fantastic, ideally the info i need is How many short priced favorites got beat last season? evens or shorter please, if you can find out for me it will be fine but if not just the info i need on websites to find it myself!

Thanks in advance

[Matron]

This should help between 1991 – 2010:-

http://adrianmassey.no-ip.org/web1/fav/fav0.php

Regards

[Leeknowles1]

This should help between 1991 – 2010:-

http://adrianmassey.no-ip.org/web1/fav/fav0.php

Regards

Thankyou for that matron but im still struggling here,

Outcome Return

Bets

Win

Place

Win

E/W
All Races

144362

34%

62%

92%

91%

So am i right in thinking that with regard to every race since 1991.. 34% of favs have come in,

So what does this mean win 92% on the right hand side of it??

That was taken from the top of the page!

Regards

[Matron]

With, that figure you would be on loss – every £100.00 invested you would have received back £92.00.

You will need to scroll down the page to get the "stats" you want.

Regards

[Leeknowles1]

With, that figure you would be on loss – every £100.00 invested you would have received back £92.00.

You will need to scroll down the page to get the "stats" you want.

Regards

So in theory backing every one of them to lose (Lay bet) would mean big dollar … just trying something!

Thanks alot buddy

[cormack15]

2011 on the flat (inc a/w) – evens or shorter.

953 selections
543 winners
56.98% s/r
1 pt level stake = loss of 66.19pts (-6.9% ROI)

At Industry SP. (On Betfair SP you’d have lost only 16.31 pts before commission)

Given you’d be laying them at BF prices AND paying commission this is no money spinner as it stands Lee.

[Leeknowles1]

What it is Cormack im trying the Lay system in the Systems area, (£36,000) so its not a case of level stakes laying, its trying to make a certain amount of money on each race, kind of like the RED/BLACK on a roulette (Lose, double it, lose double it)

So as long as a favorite gets beat this season, im in the money, the lower the % of favorite win.. the better!

Cheers.

[robnorth]

… kind of like the RED/BLACK on a roulette (Lose, double it, lose double it)…

Lee

That strategy is potentially the quickest way to ruin going.

Rob

[Leeknowles1]

… kind of like the RED/BLACK on a roulette (Lose, double it, lose double it)…

Lee

That strategy is potentially the quickest way to ruin going.

Rob

Sorry Rob could you elaborate please?

Lee

[Drone]

like the RED/BLACK on a roulette (Lose, double it, lose double it)

The attraction but fatal fallacy of exponential 2^n staking

see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale … _system%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale … _theory%29

[Zarkava]

Because if you lose 5 or 6 times in a row, you are ****-ed.

[Leeknowles1]

Because if you lose 5 or 6 times in a row, you are [expletive]-ed.

https://theracingforum.co.uk/horse-r … =3&t=89186

This is what im doing, so as long as a favorite gets beat at some point, you will make 100 per race, so if i lose 8 in a row, you lay the horse to win £800, only on odds on favs, and 54% won last year i think it said… so im going to give it a go, not with 100’s though! build up slowly!

[Purwell]

This would seem to be a reverse application of Seagull’s "Old Boy" system: https://theracingforum.co.uk/horse-r … =3&t=71513
It worked for a year if I remember correctly, then went tits up and we’ve never heard from him since!
Best of luck anyway Lee, but do stick to minimum stakes.

I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways

[cormack15]

It is intuitively appealing Lee, but flawed – a losing run (and it is inevitable sooner or later) will bring it down.

[Leeknowles1]

It is intuitively appealing Lee, but flawed – a losing run (and it is inevitable sooner or later) will bring it down.

We better hope it doesnt then! Only a little bit of fun and not big bets, wish me luck!

[Drone]

Rather than burden yourself with multi-taps of the keyboard, and burden the forum with another incarnation of an old-and-tired-as-the-hills staking ‘system’ why not do as Purwell suggest and study all 59 pages of the ‘Old Boy’ thread – boom-boom-bust-bust-big-time

I see you represent a firm which deals in waste paper – apposite or ironic? take your pick

In my opinion these ‘doubling’ staking systems are not "fun" in the slightest, as their intuitive and addictive appeal to the innumerate renders them dangerous

What’s your starting stake going to be?

Shall we say 10p – do bookies still accept two-bob bets?

9 successive losers (or winners in your case presumably) and your next stake will be £102.40

think on

[Cav]

Not quite following the exact method being used here but the longest losing run of favourites in the UK by

published off time

for the last 3 full years is

2009…25
2010…26
2011…21

You’ll go skint.

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