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  • #17406
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    Judging from price movements today, I think Hurricane Fly might have had a slight setback. If he was a definite non-runner somebody would have cleared out the place bets on the exchange, which hasn’t happened yet, so it may not be that serious. And it is just possible this is one of those meaningless market drifts that everybody jumps onto.

    Apparently Mr Mullins said he was in good shape this morning. However, typing Hurricane Fly into Twitter shows a lot of punters are very worried.

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    Still best priced 9/2 with the bookies and 6.3 on betfair. In my opinion, I don’t think he will run at Cheltenham. In a recent interview with Matt Chapman on attheraces, he refused to discuss the issue, which seems very odd and peculiar for a horse that at the time was second favourite in the market!

    #338438
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    Currently 7.60 so the drift continues.

    Mind you hwo many times did the Irish trainers release stories about Istabraq in the six weeks before the festival – he would usually turn up fit and well!!

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    You’re a funny fella JJ.

    The only reason Willie Mullins didn’t want to talk about the Champion Hurdle or the C-Word as he put it is he didn’t want to tempt fate. Nothing more than a bit of typical Irish humour and his way of saying ffs let’s get the Irish version over and done with and cross our fingers he comes home safe before talking about Cheltenham.

    Paddy Power laid a huge bet on Hurricane Fly without dropping his price.’ Another newspaper said Hurricane Fly failed to impress the punters and the Willie Mullins said he was a little bit stiff after his race, most likley the reason why the bookie never cut him.

    Easily infuenced punters guessing and messing about with 5 quid bets on Betfair is hardly a drift.

    WM Quotes
    "Hurricane Fly was a little stiff on Monday following his win in the BHP Insurances Irish Champion Hurdle the previous day," "But that passed quickly and he has been striding out to his chin every since and seems to have come out of the race very well.

    "Now everything will be geared to having him tip-top for the big one at Cheltenham on March 15."

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    4.8 is what Hurricane Fly was yesterday morning, he drifted to 7.6. This is a significant drift and represents more than 5 quid bets. He went from being 2nd fav to 4th, behind Menorah and Peddlers Cross.

    JohnJ

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    Feckin horse is made of glass.

    It was a fairly significant drift but you’d think if he was out he would have taken a major walk. The price has stabalised somewhat overnight. I’m sure Willie will keep everyone in the loop. Here’s hoping it’s something of nothing.

    #338464
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    maybe 4.8 was the wrong price and someone fancied laying a bet thinking its a 5/1 chance and then a few people think its drifting so lay it hoping its injured.

    Everyone knows the games dirty so auto assume there are sinister forces when half the time its nothing

    #338521
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    Since the win in the irish champion hurdle he had just been having light canters all week to keep him loose and On saturday morning he did his first serious piece of work with Paul on board since the Irish Champion Hurdle.He worked extremely well and came back slightly stiff behind.

    Wouldnt be to concerned about this myself seems like they have let him have a break and first day back his joints are just acheing which is common after having lack of exercise.

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    I think Mullins should avoid it anyway. No point in letting the horse suffer a mauling at the hands of Peddlers Cross, Menorah and Binocular. He should take him the Solwhit route (Aintree Hurdle) and pick up some prize money.

    I love Hurricanes style of playing with his opposition on the bridle, but he won’t stand a chance against them 3.

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    4.8 is what Hurricane Fly was yesterday morning, he drifted to 7.6. This is a significant drift and represents more than 5 quid bets. He went from being 2nd fav to 4th, behind Menorah and Peddlers Cross.

    JohnJ

    The grand total of 2,142 quid was traded at 7.6 and the majority of that was done months ago. Even if it wasn’t there are hundreds of thousands of people using Betfair if not millions.

    If you go stick 500 quid up at 7.6 you’ll be waiting until next year to get matched. I beleive the grand total matched today was 40 quid at that price and that took 18 hours :lol:

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    I think Mullins should avoid it anyway. No point in letting the horse suffer a mauling at the hands of Peddlers Cross, Menorah and Binocular. He should take him the Solwhit route (Aintree Hurdle) and pick up some prize money.

    I love Hurricanes style of playing with his opposition on the bridle, but he won’t stand a chance against them 3.

    :roll: Which Village do you come from?

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    From the Grauniad’s ever-fun Chris Cook, talking about HF’s drift…

    "If we find out anything about his wellbeing, you’ll read it here. Maybe he’s been blown away by a moderate breeze. Perhaps his lad spoke roughly to him and now his head’s fallen off."

    Brilliant.

    BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social

    So don't run, just like the others always do

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    From the Grauniad’s ever-fun Chris Cook, talking about HF’s drift…

    "If we find out anything about his wellbeing, you’ll read it here. Maybe he’s been blown away by a moderate breeze. Perhaps his lad spoke roughly to him and now his head’s fallen off."

    Brilliant.

    :lol:

    #338531
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    Fist,

    The horse’s price has been extremely tight from the time he won the Christmas Hurdle until yesterday, traded 40k from prices 4.8 to 6, then drifts, it’s rather strange.

    JohnJ

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    Apparantly Francome also had a go at the horse on the morning line add that to the rest of the news and you can easily cause a minor panic…just adverse publicity having and affect.

    Hope to hell there is nothing wrong he’d be ahuge loss to the race.

    Also concerned now about the news Binocular and Peddlar’s Cross may meet at the weekend.

    Really hope Donald MacCain decides not to go as one of them will go down. Unless it was real close run thing it would to take the edge off a great Champion Hurdle…Rather see the big 5 all avoiding each other until March

    #338578
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    I notice Binocular has drifted slightly as well from 4.5 to 5.0 , which is odd as you would think he would be a beneficiary of Fly’s drift. Perhaps people are beginning to think the race is open to other winners apart from the big 4. Mille Chief, Dunguib, Oscar and Overturn must have some of chance. The recent record of favourites in this race has been quite poor and Bini was himself only a 9-1 shot last year.

    I would quite like to see some of these horses race before the Championship. Peddlers Cross v Binocular would be interesting and I don’t think would detract much from the real thing as they have already met this season.

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    Well known fact bookmakers very often over react when a horse wins anything half decent.

    All Binocular did lasttime is prove he’s as good as ever but in reality he beat was a very good handicapper in Overturn in a race taylormade for him. Considering there are no direct lines of form who knows which of the top 4 is best.

    They really should be going 4/1 – 5/1 joint fav each of 4 so small punters can easily manipulate Betfair odds with a few quid.

    He’s currently 4.7 on Betfair for the massive amount of 23 quid. :roll: That’s not a drift thats a few punters chancing their arm they might get matched at better odds and got nothing to do with the horse’s wellbeing.

    You have to take into considerastion these people who make these odds/ cause minor drifts are not prefessional bookies they are just small punters messing about.

    I see hurricane Fly is now 7 for 7 quid If someone stuck 190 quid in the next 5 minutes at an average 6.375 he’d go to 6 and you could bet the punters would wipe out another 1/2 point thinking there was a rush on. All pretty meaningless

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