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    LD73
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    Facile Vega to me, the biggest concern would be what will he do when he gets in close to a fence – off that long stride of his he clearly has the scope to go long no problem but will he be able to shorten that stride up at a fence quickly enough……..only time will tell.

    Peter Easterby always said they waited a year too long before going chasing with Night Nurse (he wasn’t the same horse in his last hurdling season) and he was one who’s chasing technique suffered from how he hurdled – he was brilliant off a long stride but going short he tended to belt the odd one or two due to that spectacular lower hurdling technique.

    I feel the longer you stay hurdling the harder it would be to learn to make the proper shape over fences, especially the technique required when having to shorten to a fence compared to a hurdle. A horse can (and often does) flatten a hurdle and lose little to no momentum out the other side…..you do that over a fence and you are parting ways with the horse.

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    “Facile Vega to me, the biggest concern would be what will he do when he gets in close to a fence – off that long stride of his he clearly has the scope to go long no problem but will he be able to shorten that stride up at a fence quickly enough…”

    Just shorten up in any old half arsed fashion, bulldoze the top and carry on like El Fabiolo at the last in the Arkle. :good:

    #1665045
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    You might want to take a closer look at El Fabiolo at that last fence – he was actually very clever with his front legs before the fence and didn’t actually bulldoze through the fence as it was just his front legs which went through the very top of it…….it did however look very ungainly.

    #1665056
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    “he was actually very clever with his front legs before the fence ”

    Not really, he made minimum effort to shorten and didn’t (couldn’t) whip his knees up tight ,instead relying on the fact that momentum = mass x velocity to batter through the top, and it didn’t slow him down.

    #1665070
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    Guess we just see it differently – watching his stride cadence going to the last it changes just before take off (he puts in some quick shuffle steps) that enables him to get his hoofs up just enough so that they go through the top part of the fence thus avoiding breasting it full on and likely tipping up.

    His technique is neither particularly pretty or fluent but it is highly effective and clearly works for him but I do think he is a lot cleverer than most give him credit for and I don’t see any particular reason why Jonbon (who I will fully agree is the far slicker jumper) will turn the tables – El Fabiolo had less experience both times they met and is also a year younger, so I suspect he may be open to more improvement.

    Hopefully, we may get to see part 3 earlier than next March if they both turn up for the Tingle Creek.

    #1665082
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    “Hopefully, we may get to see part 3 earlier than next March if they both turn up for the Tingle Creek.”

    That would be some race…especially if Dysart Dynamo was leading the charge over the Railway fences ;-)

    #1665087
    LD73
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    Indeed, no greater sight when you get 2m chasers winging it down to those three fences – also don’t forget that one on the downhill run going away from the stands, if DD really gets rolling going down to that one……..squeaky bum time for sure.

    #1666468
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    An interesting example of both categories I avoid in one horse tomorrow at Chepstow. Knappers Hill has a 153 rating based on hurdle form, has spent two seasons running over hurdles and had 13 races in that time. But he’ll still start odds on.

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