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The Racing Post article here:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.racingpost.com/news/british-and-irish-racing-at-the-centre-of-panorama-documentary/500348/amp&ved=2ahUKEwj4wYTCm97xAhVohv0HHXVpB1sQyM8BMAB6BAgDEAY&usg=AOvVaw3C8HzUg1dYB7oMoTgcrn9a&cf=1Thoughts on its being made ?
It will be titled ‘The Dark Side of Horse Racing’.
It will be interesting to see who features on it, won’t it ?
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My heart sinks to see this. I have long thought the BBC has an anti-racing bias, and I have concerns it will be full of inaccuracies and sensationalism.
But saying all that, racing most definitely has welfare issues that need to be resolved, and it is still all too capable of providing ammunition to anyone with an axe to grind (the Stephen Mahon situation being a prime example).
I’ve no issue with a light being shone on things to make positive change. Let’s just hope the programme approaches the issues in a constructive way…
Fat chance of that Marlingford.
Panorama doesn’t approach any subject with the thought of being fair to both sides.
They’ll just be thinking: How can we make this look the absolute worst for Racing?Value Is EverythingThey’ll show Gordon’s fat arse sat on Morgan *NAP
Charles Darwin to conquer the World
I realise that’s by far the most likely outcome Gingertipster!
Racing is frustratingly good at making itself an easy target though. If it does turn out that the programme is a complete car crash for racing, the industry will almost certainly deserve its share of blame.
It will be interesting to see who appears for the “defence”, if anyone.
Fact 1: Existential argument – no racehorse would ever be born hence have the gift of sentient life but for racing.
Fact 2: Life quality argument – The average racehorse has a better quality of life during its life than many human beings in poor countries.
Both facts routinely ignored by the likes of Panorama.
If they want to find examples of animal mistreatment, offhand I cannot think of a more risible target than commercially-bred racehorses.
Is any animal on the planet more pampered than a thoroughbred racehorse?
The Queen’s corgis, perhaps?
It’s just a ludicrous notion.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Hmmm, with issues such as injuries/deaths caused by racing, the whip, overbreeding, and what happens to horses once their career has ended I’d say there are plenty of topics that are fair game.
We have a delicate contract with the racehorse where we are using it for our entertainment, and racing should be held to very high standards. Although there are lots of wonderful people in the industry who take these things very seriously, there is still huge room for improvement, and we need to be very mindful of this if racing is to continue to prosper.
You’re absolutely right, Richard, but it’s 1.01 to be a complete hatchet job.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I think it’s best to reserve judgement until you’ve actually seen it.
Indeed, but it’s interesting to speculate, and would have been a very short thread if nobody had given their thoughts in response to the opening post.
The blurb doesn’t do much to make me think it won’t be taking the hatchet job route: “Panorama discovers that off the track, many horses suffer career-ending injuries, and rather than being rehabilitated or retrained for life outside the sport, racehorses that have been owned and trained by some of the biggest names in the industry, have been put down, some meeting grisly deaths.”
“Fact 1: Existential argument – no racehorse would ever be born hence have the gift of sentient life but for racing.”
I have lost count of the number of times I have tried to explain this to non-racing people.
They seem to think that there are herds of horses running around without a care in the world until evil racehorse owners round them up, put them in a field and race the bastards.
I have had the exact same experience Gladiateur.
Me: “That horse there on TV would never have even been born but for racing.”
Them: “It might have done!”
Me: “How? It’s sire was commercially bred as was its sire and dam going back hundreds of years. Ditto the dam and her ancestors. That racehorse is a manmade product – it’s entire breeding and life organised by man. It lives a pampered life in the care of man. It wouldn’t ever have been even born in the wild, let alone had the same quality of life. There’s people in the Third World with worse lives.”
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Third World? There are plenty of people in our own communities who live worse lives.
Quite!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"The existential argument is irrelevant in terms of discussing how we treat them after they do come to exist.
Agree there are likely to be much more pressing areas of animal welfare that should be of concern than the care of thoroughbreds, that in itself is no defence either though.
What happens to racehorses after racing is a matter we should be concerned about. In my view horses should be rehabilitated where possible or humanely euthanised once their careers are over. That, however, would be unpalatable to many sections of the general public.
It’ll be interested to see what has been uncovered.
Suspect that it will be sensationalised and agree with Nathan that the Elliott lapse of judgement will no doubt feature.Point taken. One problem I find with programmes like this, and this is far from exclusive to the BBC, is that you often get the feeling that they come up with an answer and then set about making a programme to ‘prove’ it. Hopefully they will look at both sides and draw a conclusion from that like they should. I would agree that this is long odds against but remain open minded.
It Twitter is any guide, racing has definitely become a Woke campaign
Best not to get involved I find but it’s startling how little knowledge there is of the game
As with so many of those campaigns (Palestine a template) it has nothing to do with the supposed victims but everything to do with bigoted hatred towards the supposed perpetrators
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