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  • #23354
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    As this Forum has unanimously agreed (apart from those who didn’t) Darts should be included into the Olympic Games forthwith.

    But why not horse racing? As is pointed out in the article below, it was the Blue Riband event of the Greek Olympiads for centuries:

    http://www.geegeez.co.uk/horseracing-and-the-olympics/

    How about four stakes races over 5f, 1m, 1m4f and 2m with one horse and one reserve selected to represent each country? Then possibly a qualifier near the start of the Games and the final three or four week’s later.

    Sorted!

    Mike

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    I’m not sure.

    I’m don’t think any sport should be in the Olympics if it is the not the pinnacle of that sport, and it certainly wouldn’t be the pinnacle of horse racing.

    Same could be said of tennis imo. Would a tennis player rather win an Olympic Gold or one of the Grand Slams?

    Would a darts player rather a PDC World Title or a Gold medal?

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    Who would win the medals, horses? Not really fair giving the medal to the rider as all he does is sit on top and time the run.

    #425224
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    Who would win the medals, horses? Not really fair giving the medal to the rider as all he does is sit on top and time the run.

    Better than throwing spiked sticks at a wooden plate.

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    Who would win the medals, horses? Not really fair giving the medal to the rider as all he does is sit on top and time the run.

    A medal each to horse, owner, trainer and jockey. Just like any team sport at the Olympics, really.

    Mike

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    Who would win the medals, horses? Not really fair giving the medal to the rider as all he does is sit on top and time the run.

    Better than throwing spiked sticks at a wooden plate.

    Don’t understand?

    Mike

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    Probably the last sport that would be considered.

    They would never bring in events that would rule out a large number of potential candidate cities from the start. Leaving the Olympics with a small pool of cities with major racecourses…

    Its OK for tennis players to agree say 3 times in 12 years to give up earnings to play at the Olympics and have minor changes in their training regime once every 4 years

    But world class horses would be asked to give up running in a major race for prize money to run for nothing at the Olympics.

    No fan is going to give up Goodwood, Deauville, Del Mar or Saratoga to go to watch…

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    Will never happen. Its hard enough to get horses racing outside their own countries so to expect them to do so for the Olympics is impossible.

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    Who would win the medals, horses? Not really fair giving the medal to the rider as all he does is sit on top and time the run.

    A medal each to horse, owner, trainer and jockey. Just like any team sport at the Olympics, really.

    Mike

    Last time I checked no animal had received an Olympic medal as part of a team or otherwise. The Olympics are about human achievement and horse racing is predominantly about equine achievement. It is completely distinguishable from show jumping, eventing and dressage by virtue of the fact in those three sports the rider has a massively important role in both the training of the horse and in riding the horse in order to decide the results. Racehorses will gallop anyway, whereas in the three Olympic equestrian discipline’s horses are trained to complete manoeuvres/actions they would not otherwise have done/learned to do.

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    Last time I checked no animal had received an Olympic medal as part of a team or otherwise. The Olympics are about human achievement and horse racing is predominantly about equine achievement. It is completely distinguishable from show jumping, eventing and dressage by virtue of the fact in those three sports the rider has a massively important role in both the training of the horse and in riding the horse in order to decide the results. Racehorses will gallop anyway, whereas in the three Olympic equestrian discipline’s horses are trained to complete manoeuvres/actions they would not otherwise have done/learned to do.

    Well, that’s a point but I don’t see a world of difference between equestrian events and racing and if some insist there is, so what?

    You probably wouldn’t get the Frankel’s competing but you don’t get the best footballers or boxers either.

    I think it would be massively supported and connections would love to win an Olympic Gold – the crowds would also go mad for it! It probably won’t happen as there’s too many Jeremiahs in racing to get a campaign off the ground, but imagine what a fantastic advert for the sport it would be…

    Mike

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    Fantasy to think that either Racing or Darts will be in the Olympics. Before being included in the Olympics they have to pass various criteria and neither passes the first one. To become an Olympic sport your International Governing Body must be recognised by the IOC. Neither darts or racing are recognised.Don’t follow darts but believe it is splintered and racing can’t even agree a set of international rules. Once recognised you then have a fight to participate at the games and there are already over thirty sports on the IOC list who don’t compete at the games ahead of them. Of course you then have to wait for another sport to get kicked out as the number of competitions at the games are limted.

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    No way ! A preposterous suggestion. :evil:

    The very idea is laughable.

    When I think the Olympics, I primarily think about athletics, swimming, gymnastics, discus, javelin, amateur boxing, hammer throwing, Judo, cycling and rowing.

    I do not think darts, golf or horse racing. :roll:

    I’d also ditch tennis and football – both already have world championship events which over-ride the Olympics games in terms of quality and prestige.

    Golf has no place either. What are they thinking of ! :evil:

    That old French guy must be turning in his grave. :shock:

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

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    So far the Olympics has been hosted by around 14 or so cities with either no racecourse, a racecourse that doesnt meet standards and ones which may be great but that no one wants to travel to at the time of the Olympics.

    The cost of building a track as well as a stadium would be prohibitive. And what do you do with it after the games-especially in a country with no racing heritage.

    It wont be like Greenwich Park which was violated for about 6-9 months.

    Darts would be easier to put on. Just need a room that can fit 500 overweight drunks…

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    Last time I checked no animal had received an Olympic medal as part of a team or otherwise. The Olympics are about human achievement and horse racing is predominantly about equine achievement. It is completely distinguishable from show jumping, eventing and dressage by virtue of the fact in those three sports the rider has a massively important role in both the training of the horse and in riding the horse in order to decide the results. Racehorses will gallop anyway, whereas in the three Olympic equestrian discipline’s horses are trained to complete manoeuvres/actions they would not otherwise have done/learned to do.

    Well, that’s a point but I don’t see a world of difference between equestrian events and racing and if some insist there is, so what?

    You probably wouldn’t get the Frankel’s competing but you don’t get the best footballers or boxers either.

    I think it would be massively supported and connections would love to win an Olympic Gold – the crowds would also go mad for it! It probably won’t happen as there’s too many Jeremiahs in racing to get a campaign off the ground, but imagine what a fantastic advert for the sport it would be…

    Mike

    Yes but Mike you miss my main point. Horse racing is primarily about the horse’s achievement whereas other equestrian sports involve the rider’s skill/ability to a much greater extent. If you let horse racing in and give out gold medals to horses then the Olympics is no longer about human achievement.

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    Monkey tennis?

    Mike

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    http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Donkey_Kong_Jr._(character)

    Already played that…

    Damn. Youth Hostelling with Chris Eubank?

    Mike

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