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Horse don't 'know' they've won – surely?

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    dave jay
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    How many times have you seen horses running off the course towards the stables during a race? .. a few times, makes you think doesnt it?

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    Nor1
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    Animals are far more intelligent than given credit for, and smarter than some humans. It’s just that they can’t talk.

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    Avatar photoCav
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    Animals are far more intelligent than given credit for, and smarter than some humans.

    George Bush is ample evidence of this.

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    shaund10
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    If they do not know they are in a race or whether they’ve won, it becomes hard to explain hold up horses who stop as soon as they hit the front ie: they think there finished and that they’ve won.

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    MCFC Stan
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    I thought and still think Frankie’s comments after the Eclipse about Authorised thinking he’d won were pretty ridiculous. Obviously they realise they done well after a race because of the way they are treated, but thats like a dog who rolls over and gets a treat knows he’s done something right, but thats as fars as I’d go with it.

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    Avatar photoHimself
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    Animals are far more intelligent than given credit for, and smarter than some humans. It’s just that they can’t talk.

    …, or write, or read, or invent things, or use a computer, or build its own stable or …or… well, I think you get the picture. :wink:

    No, horse (or any other animal for that matter) is smarter than a human. Fact ! :)

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

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    Librettist
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    Grimes how about those horses who pass the winning post more than once in a race? If they really knew what the winning post was they’d quicken themselves up upon sight of it would they not? Or are you trying to tell us horses can count the number of circuits as well? :wink: :)

    Some Jockeys struggle to do that!

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    Librettist
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    On a slightly related theme, what is all this cobblers that seems to be vogue for victorious trainers to spout at the moment about being “pleased for the horse“. Pardon? Is the horse going to get organic sugarlumps as a special treat or something?

    I’m sure the horse must be delighted to have raced three miles in the mud while being flogged for the last half mile just to pick up a prize for someone else. Pleased for the horse? Don’t patronise me! Pleased for yourself more like.

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    The Dice Man
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    If they do not know they are in a race or whether they’ve won, it becomes hard to explain hold up horses who stop as soon as they hit the front ie: they think there finished and that they’ve won.

    I would imagine that that can almost completely be put down to the herd instict, as horses are herd animals. Staying as part of the herd is a dominant instinct – of course, the strength of that instinct will vary with individual horses

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    Nor1
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    Himself wrote

    …, or write, or read, or invent things, or use a computer, or build its own stable or …or… well, I think you get the picture.

    No, horse (or any other animal for that matter) is smarter than a human. Fact !

    I can list loads of things animals can do that humans are incapable of.
    We are different but that does not mean we are all more intelligent.
    If you have ever worked with animals, believe me, some will think out strategies to get what they want, whether this is food or freedom, and change them next time. They can’t communicate verbally but this doesn’t mean they’re dumb.
    With regard to racing, they won’t know where the finishing line is first time, but some will, if run over the same track and distance a few times.

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    dave jay
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    I can list loads of things animals can do that humans are incapable of

    I can think of one thing that animals can do that I can’t and if I could I would never have got married again.

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    llanrumneyboy
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    Before long Denman will be on MasterMind, well hopefully not Master Minded.

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    llanrumneyboy
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    It would appear that some of my fellow forumites are suffering Doctor Dolittle delusions.

    Kind regards,

    Pushme-pullyu

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    Avatar photoaji
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    Animals are far more intelligent than given credit for, and smarter than some humans. It’s just that they can’t talk.

    …, or write, or read, or invent things, or use a computer, or build its own stable or …or… well, I think you get the picture. :wink:

    No, horse (or any other animal for that matter) is smarter than a human. Fact ! :)

    That is assuming human definition of smart, i.e. being able to write, read, use a computer.

    Now a horse may think "no human (or any oher animal for that matter) is smarter than a horse. Fact!"

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    Nor1
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    It would appear that some of my fellow forumites are suffering Doctor Dolittle delusions.

    Kind regards,

    Pushme-pullyu

    Doctor Dolittle is fiction. Suggest you read this and follow the research references.

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consc … -animal/#5

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    llanrumneyboy
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    It would appear that some of my fellow forumites are suffering Doctor Dolittle delusions.

    Kind regards,

    Pushme-pullyu

    Doctor Dolittle is fiction. Suggest you read this and follow the research references.

    Never!!

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    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    Of course horses know when they have won/done well they know what attention is getting pattted means etc…..I think some people are trying to think a horses thoughts for them which is obviously impossible unless you are a horse yourself….If you are congratualtions on learning to type. :lol:

    They haven’t a clue where a winning post is obvuoisly but they know that they are asked to go faster and when they do they get patted and shown affection………Does a dog know when he has done wrong……..of course he does but he reacts to the sound and tone of you voice not to what you say….you have one? tell him he’s been bad because he threw ink all over the ceiling and he react the same way as he would if you got on to him for eating one of the kids teddys………

    Animal understand some things make humans happy other don’t……..so when they win and everyone around them is happy and they know they have done well…..they also have memories….6 times they win everyone is happy around them then they get beat and everyone seems sad…….they know the difference in the same way a dog does……..many animals react to human emotions……..Horses even react to their name unlike other animals such as cats……..I’ve went after a horse who fell on a race course whoI spent a lot of time with………when I got within 50 yds of him I called his name…he was lost and no idea where he was going..the second he heard me he looked seen a familiar face and ran straight over to me……they are clever thinking animals more like a dog than a cat. I’m sure others who have looked after horse will have had similar experiences.

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