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  • #1693458
    FinalFurlong91
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    Colour me shocked that the majority of non runners at Chester are high drawn

    Wonder what excuses connections made up

    #1693460
    mickeyjp
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    This is bloody farcical. Totally spoiling the racing experience especially when betting ew. Trainers need to have a long hard look at themselves. No wonder attendances are down. Just nonsense. Get a cracking break and draw negated. Grrrr.

    #1693464
    FinalFurlong91
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    4 non runners in the 2:35

    Drawn 8, 9, 11 and 12

    A coincidence I’m sure

    #1693468
    Mike007
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    Stall 13 beats stall 10 in the Sprint. Don’t know what the fuss is all about ;o)

    #1693475
    FinalFurlong91
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    Was bound to happen

    #1693480
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    tbh I don’t see anything wrong with connections taking runners out due to the draw, FF.
    Yes, non-runners do change the race for punters, but it is a case of punters beware.
    The maximum number of runners is too big in the shorter races at Chester. It is imo the fault of whoever chose that maximum number, not the fault of trainers / owners. :rose:

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    #1693485
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    “Get a cracking break and draw negated”.
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    No, it’s not as easy as that.

    If a wide horse gets a cracking break and the ones on the inner don’t or are not interested in leading, then yes it can be done.

    But if a wide horse gets a cracking break and those on the inner have also got a cracking break then the one on the outer can not get over and is left in the worst possible position.

    If going too fast early in order to get over it’ll be picked off in the closing stages.

    If the ones on the inner get a cracking break and want to lead then the best thing to do on one on the outer is to take a pull and take a position further back nearer the rail. Hoping they keep the pace fast so you can find a way through…. If they slow it up then you’re again in the worst place possible.

    ie Whether a jockey drawn wide gets a cracking break or not, it all depends on whatever jockeys on the inner do.

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    #1693519
    Landafar
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    This is not a new thing, its been going on for years.
    If Chester want a fair 5 furlong race, they need to limit the numbers to 8 or try to have a special 5 furlong track across the centre, if there is enough room.
    Although they did pay prize money down to 8th today, but a good non winning run will be noticed by the dreaded handicapper.

    #1693520
    TheTinMan87
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    Attendances are probably down because its a boring track to bet at and a boring track to watch races at. Like watching them go round a velodrome. The location is spectacular, the track is not.

    #1693522
    mickeyjp
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    The betting was poor due to the small fields. The last two races with bigger fields had queues at the bookies. Not rocket science. Btw fav in last race drawn very wide and scooted in. Just saying.

    #1693527
    Avatar photoRefuse To Bend
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    Rarely bet at Chester looked today but didn’t bother albeit one came in so would have got money back. Will probably only watch tomorrow.

    The more I know the less I understand.

    #1693530
    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    “Try to have a special 5 furlong track across the centre, if there is enough room.”

    I have walked around the track several times. I doubt a track across the middle is possible. Even if it was, the middle of the course is public land and there would be a lot of resistance.

    There is a large hospitality area near the winning post on the infield. I doubt Chester would want to give it up.

    There is also the question of a pull up area. There simply isn’t any space.

    #1693595
    Red Rum 77
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    I always thought the bias at Chester was low draw. When doing forecast and tricast betting at Chester is how I bet.

    You've got to accentuate the positive.
    Eliminate the negative.
    Latch on to the affirmative.
    Don't mess with mister in between.

    #1693611
    Avatar photorobnorth
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    5 furlong track across the middle is a no go as there’s only a maximum of 3 and a bit furlongs even before you allow a pull area. It’s bounded by railway viaduct and the river so it’s out of the question.

    One option might be to limit field size to 10, but it’s still a struggle from the outside. Night Of Earth was swiftly out and soon led from the outside today, but had used himself up to get there but the run does suggest he’s in form.

    Another alternative is to make 7f 122yds the minimum distance as the draw has less effect from that start. Can’t imagine the Jockey Club would go with that one…

    #1693636
    Red Rum 77
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    “Another alternative is to make 7f 122yds the minimum distance as the draw has less effect from that start. Can’t imagine the Jockey Club would go with that one…”

    I got one of my biggest win using Draw Bias, although not at Chester. I wish people would leave things alone.

    You've got to accentuate the positive.
    Eliminate the negative.
    Latch on to the affirmative.
    Don't mess with mister in between.

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