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- May 8, 2024 at 12:39 #1693458
Colour me shocked that the majority of non runners at Chester are high drawn
Wonder what excuses connections made up
May 8, 2024 at 12:44 #1693460This is bloody farcical. Totally spoiling the racing experience especially when betting ew. Trainers need to have a long hard look at themselves. No wonder attendances are down. Just nonsense. Get a cracking break and draw negated. Grrrr.
May 8, 2024 at 13:06 #16934644 non runners in the 2:35
Drawn 8, 9, 11 and 12
A coincidence I’m sure
May 8, 2024 at 13:38 #1693468Stall 13 beats stall 10 in the Sprint. Don’t know what the fuss is all about ;o)
May 8, 2024 at 14:24 #1693475Was bound to happen
May 8, 2024 at 14:59 #1693480tbh I don’t see anything wrong with connections taking runners out due to the draw, FF.
Yes, non-runners do change the race for punters, but it is a case of punters beware.
The maximum number of runners is too big in the shorter races at Chester. It is imo the fault of whoever chose that maximum number, not the fault of trainers / owners.
Value Is EverythingMay 8, 2024 at 15:21 #1693485“Get a cracking break and draw negated”.
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No, it’s not as easy as that.If a wide horse gets a cracking break and the ones on the inner don’t or are not interested in leading, then yes it can be done.
But if a wide horse gets a cracking break and those on the inner have also got a cracking break then the one on the outer can not get over and is left in the worst possible position.
If going too fast early in order to get over it’ll be picked off in the closing stages.
If the ones on the inner get a cracking break and want to lead then the best thing to do on one on the outer is to take a pull and take a position further back nearer the rail. Hoping they keep the pace fast so you can find a way through…. If they slow it up then you’re again in the worst place possible.
ie Whether a jockey drawn wide gets a cracking break or not, it all depends on whatever jockeys on the inner do.
Value Is EverythingMay 8, 2024 at 17:06 #1693519This is not a new thing, its been going on for years.
If Chester want a fair 5 furlong race, they need to limit the numbers to 8 or try to have a special 5 furlong track across the centre, if there is enough room.
Although they did pay prize money down to 8th today, but a good non winning run will be noticed by the dreaded handicapper.May 8, 2024 at 17:07 #1693520Attendances are probably down because its a boring track to bet at and a boring track to watch races at. Like watching them go round a velodrome. The location is spectacular, the track is not.
May 8, 2024 at 17:29 #1693522The betting was poor due to the small fields. The last two races with bigger fields had queues at the bookies. Not rocket science. Btw fav in last race drawn very wide and scooted in. Just saying.
May 8, 2024 at 18:18 #1693527Rarely bet at Chester looked today but didn’t bother albeit one came in so would have got money back. Will probably only watch tomorrow.
The more I know the less I understand.
May 8, 2024 at 18:48 #1693530“Try to have a special 5 furlong track across the centre, if there is enough room.”
I have walked around the track several times. I doubt a track across the middle is possible. Even if it was, the middle of the course is public land and there would be a lot of resistance.
There is a large hospitality area near the winning post on the infield. I doubt Chester would want to give it up.
There is also the question of a pull up area. There simply isn’t any space.
May 9, 2024 at 12:24 #1693595I always thought the bias at Chester was low draw. When doing forecast and tricast betting at Chester is how I bet.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.May 9, 2024 at 15:31 #16936115 furlong track across the middle is a no go as there’s only a maximum of 3 and a bit furlongs even before you allow a pull area. It’s bounded by railway viaduct and the river so it’s out of the question.
One option might be to limit field size to 10, but it’s still a struggle from the outside. Night Of Earth was swiftly out and soon led from the outside today, but had used himself up to get there but the run does suggest he’s in form.
Another alternative is to make 7f 122yds the minimum distance as the draw has less effect from that start. Can’t imagine the Jockey Club would go with that one…
May 9, 2024 at 18:40 #1693636“Another alternative is to make 7f 122yds the minimum distance as the draw has less effect from that start. Can’t imagine the Jockey Club would go with that one…”
I got one of my biggest win using Draw Bias, although not at Chester. I wish people would leave things alone.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
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