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  • #168597
    Venusian
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    I’ll give Raven’s Pass another chance, the g/f going should suit him.

    #168614
    carvillshill
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    I really am struggling to believe that you don’t think a dual Guineas winner doesn’t really stay a mile Reet- fantastic!

    #168643
    Anonymous
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    I really am struggling to believe that you don’t think a dual Guineas winner doesn’t really stay a mile Reet- fantastic!

    No more than Finsceal Beo or Cockney Rebel didn’t at Ascot, (Despite the horsesh*t about the injury costing him the race when he was already beaten).
    Watch and learn, my son! :wink: :lol:

    #168651
    andyod
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    two poor examples one was real sick and the other could win tomorrow

    #168701
    Anonymous
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    Two fine examples, both as recent as it gets, and neither lasting home! :lol:
    Finsceal Beo might just see it out today, with another year on her back and being trained to try and stay 10f ever since, but she didn’t stay it last year.
    Neither, imo, did Cockney Rebel, a view I expressed immediately after the race, long before his ‘injury’ became apparent.
    Not something I’ve researched, but I’d be pretty sure that Ascot’s 1m, on either course, would be littered with the ashes of other Guinea’s winners that have also failed to stay this sterner test.

    #168726
    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    Rio De La Plata is a non-runner today.

    #168728
    Peruvian Chief
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    Can’t have much of that Reet, especially the Cockney Rebel jibe – the horse veered the width of the track after looking like winning as he liked. Didn’t look like a bull excuse to me.

    #168734
    Aragorn
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    I agree with Peruvian – I think you’re way off the mark with Cockney Rebel he came to win and then decided to do a red arrows impression across the width of the track. He would have won that race easily imo. I felt for the Cunninghams as I genuinely thought Cockney Rebel was an absolute machine.

    #168737
    Peruvian Chief
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    I did too. Will never be proved, but i personally have no doubt Excellent Art or Ramonti wouldn’t have beaten Cockney Rebel last season, injuries excepted.

    #168740
    Avatar photoYoung Mick
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    Wow, just read an article on Setanta about Henry..

    http://www.setantasports.com/en/Sport/N … se-racing/

    Aidan O’Brien has talked up Henrythenavigator prior to Tuesday’s St James’ Palace Stakes to the extent that the 4-6 available about him winning might seem like free money.

    The son of Kingmambo bids for three consecutive Group Ones after winning both the English and Irish 2000 Guineas.

    The Ballydoyle colt is hot favourite to achieve that at Royal Ascot, and O’Brien has compared him favourably to his best recent milers.

    "Henrythenavigator is probably the best miler I have trained in that he has such electric pace," the trainer told the Racing Post.

    "Giant’s Causeway was a tough grinder and Rock Of Gibraltar was high-class – but Henry is a bit special."

    #168745
    Peruvian Chief
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    ‘Coolmore / O’Brien in hyping up new Stallion shocker.’

    #168746
    Anonymous
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    Just another example of his trainer’s fertile imagination; the same one that a few weeks back had HTN as a Derby contender. :lol: :lol:

    #168751
    clivex
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    Henrythenavigator is probably the best miler I have trained in that he has such electric pace,"

    Almost as fast as One Cool Cat then :roll:

    #168757
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    "He shows so much speed, so he does".

    It might be true but he says it about every stallion prospect, nobody listens to him anymore.

    Mark

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    #168775
    Peruvian Chief
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    Its now got to the point that if you don’t hear Aiden O’Brien calling a Coolmore Group 1 horse the best / fastest he’s ever trained, it can be construed as a negative.

    #168782
    Librettist
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    This now looks a moderate race with the late defection of the best miler in the country.

    #168801
    Hawk Wing
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    Its now got to the point that if you don’t hear Aiden O’Brien calling a Coolmore Group 1 horse the best / fastest he’s ever trained, it can be construed as a negative.

    well he has just set the track record, so Aiden must be talking cake :D

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