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Well done ATR with your instant replay and it’s free too
<br>Put’s my other subscription channel to shame
Troble is though, there are some races missing for no apparent reason. I wanted to watch a replay of Peregrine Falcon’s last 2 runs but neither are on the archive for some reason.
I feel very strongly been told what I can and cant watch on TV.<br>ATR is a dedicated racing channel, and its viewers are obviously dedicated racing fans, who are used to seeing horses breaking down and Jockeys falling espiecially in the Jumps game. <br>A lady jockey got badly hurt I think it was Lingfield last Monday, having took my eye away from the TV for a second or two I missed the incident, I am not some sort of sadistic voyeur who revels in seeing somebody getting hurt, I only wanted to see how the incident happened and why ?, ATR producer decided that it would be inappropriate to show a replay of the incident.<br>My personal opinion is it should be left to viewers discretion whether they want watch or look away, not some producer telling us what we can and cant watch.<br>For example when One Man got killed at Aintree it was shown on every terrestial and satellite news channel so his accident was witnessed by millions upon millions of people.<br> Growing up during my teenage years during the eighties and living next door to the Curragh Racecourse I was fortunate to see in the flesh some of Vincent O Briens finest horses, El Gran Senor, Sadlers Wells, Law Society, Kings Lake and the best of them all Golden Fleece who was the victim of Robert Sangster and Co’s policy of take the stud fees and run. I love to see great horses compete against each other but if a great horse dies I wont lose sleep over it, unlike the ridiculous situation where a priest said a memorial service for Desert Orchid (a horse for gods sake), but was Dessies death any different to say a 3 mile hcap chaser who breaks its neck in a fall at Hexham.<br>The death of any horse is unfortunate but certainly not a tragedy unlike some of the people who wrote in all their emotional eulogies over the death of Desert Orchid in the Racing Post, you would swear the world was after ending or something, 9/11 now thats a tragedy.
Whats this pick on the new guy !<br>If you have an opinion on ATR Censorship Aragorn, then speak, otherwise go away.
Yes, Desert Orchid’s death was different – on a global basis, and that’s why people wanted to pay tribute – to that of a three-mile chaser who breaks its neck at Hexham, in exactly the same way that George Harrison’s death was different to that of a session musician who played maraccas on a couple of top 40 hits in the 1950s.
Welcome to the forum, by the way . . .
Nothing to do with you being new!I just thought you were ranting.
You talk about all the greats and the pleasure they brought you then slag people off for having a funeral for possibly the best chaser of the last twenty years. Nobody is kidding themselves this is the most humane of sports, but you should have some respect for the animals that give you all that pleasure.
Even if they are just a horse :biggrin:
Quote: from Lincoln Duncan on 3:09 pm on Feb. 7, 2007[br]Yes, Desert Orchid’s death was different – on a global basis, and that’s why people wanted to pay tribute – to that of a three-mile chaser who breaks its neck at Hexham, in exactly the same way that George Harrison’s death was different to that of a session musician who played maraccas on a couple of top 40 hits in the 1950s.
Welcome to the forum, by the way . . .
Of course Desert Orchid had more ability than most, he was a joy to watch jumping fast and bold, but every horse has the same feelings whether a pieball or a blue blood. <br>Was Princess Diana’s death any different than say John Smiths mother down the street, who rared 10 children on a widowers allowance. Diana happened to have a silver spoon upbringing and was in the public eye for marrying a certain royal, and done great things for charity "well why wouldnt she". Mrs Smith would be my hero anytime.
By the way Duncan thanks for the welcome.
Quote: from Aragorn on 3:23 pm on Feb. 7, 2007[br]Nothing to do with you being new!I just thought you were ranting.
You talk about all the greats and the pleasure they brought you then slag people off for having a funeral for possibly the best chaser of the last twenty years. Nobody is kidding themselves this is the most humane of sports, but you should have some respect for the animals that give you all that pleasure.
Even if they are just a horse :biggrin: <br>
<br>Of course I have respect for the animals, but the death of a racehorse, pails into insignificance when we see what is happening in Iraq, even as I write someone has probably been blown up. For example when the great Duke Nicholson died recently, he was given a good obituary by the Racing Post, but there was nowhere near the amount of public sympathy from the racing public for the Duke as there was for Desert Orchid. Makes you think doesnt Aragorn. <br> Betting is and always will be the driving force behind horse racing, without it there would be no racehorses or trainers.
"Betting is and always will be the driving force behind horse racing, without it there would be no racehorses or trainers."
Thats a bit of a circular agrument.
Welcome to the forum though marz. I probably should have put a ;) on my original post. ;) <br>
Quote: from Aragorn on 4:02 pm on Feb. 7, 2007[br]"Betting is and always will be the driving force behind horse racing, without it there would be no racehorses or trainers."
Thats a bit of a circular agrument.
Welcome to the forum though marz. I probably should have put a ;) on my original post. ;) <br>
Cheers Aragorn.
As far as the censorship goes, I too don’t like it. True, I don’t want a rolling replay of the incident for the next five mins. But it would be nice to see what happened, just like the viewers that watched it live.<br>I get fed up with being ‘told’ what I should like to watch, as if I am a five year old child that will burst out crying when the gee-gee falls over. Kids shouldn’t be watching ATR anyway. Horse racing is a sport for adults, and all types of under age gambling should be discouraged. As such, an adult audience should not be subject to summary censorship by programme editors.<br>If you don’t want to watch the replay, p**s
off and make a cup of coffee for the following two minutes ;)In my opinion ATR should have shown a replay of the incident ( perhaps with a comment stating what had happened so any viewers could not watch it they didn’t want to ). ÂÂÂ
Horse racing would survive without betting but on a smaller scale.
Welcome and I hope you enjoy the forum madman marz – interesting name:)
"Horse racing is a sport for adults".
Way to encourage the next generation of racing fans, RD.  I watched racing from an early age and my 3yo son watches ATR (sometimes protestingly!).  I don’t think it is a 18 Certificate making ATR not show replays of nasty incidents, it is more a sensitivity to family/friends/connections of jockeys or horses that might be badly injured.  The producers waiting to hear how bad the injury is first before replaying it and then broadcasting it with an advisory message is probably a sensible way to go.
I agree that modern age sensitivity can get ridiculously out of control, but I can also see why TV channels don’t want the bad publicity of showing repeated slo-mos of a jockey or horse breaking their neck.
I’m quite happy for them to censor things out when the horses get injured, especially when they break down when galloping .. not too bothered about the humans though, they can always go and do something else, instead of racing.
Welcome to the forum madman .. !
Quote: from Sal on 5:04 pm on Feb. 7, 2007[br]"Horse racing is a sport for adults".
Way to encourage the next generation of racing fans, RD. I watched racing from an early age and my 3yo son watches ATR (sometimes protestingly!). I don’t think it is a 18 Certificate making ATR not show replays of nasty incidents, it is more a sensitivity to family/friends/connections of jockeys or horses that might be badly injured. The producers waiting to hear how bad the injury is first before replaying it and then broadcasting it with an advisory message is probably a sensible way to go.
I agree that modern age sensitivity can get ridiculously out of control, but I can also see why TV channels don’t want the bad publicity of showing repeated slo-mos of a jockey or horse breaking their neck.
My point was more that ATR cannot assume that it has, and in fact cater, for a younger audience as the sport is intrinsically aimed at a punting audience of over 18s. I watched from as young as 6, but the sport is not aimed specifically at that audience. No more than Bravo would assume that pre-pubescent kids could be watching ‘King Dong does Dallas’ at 11.40 on a Friday night ;)
I do get your point about horrible looking incidents, but that is not a lot different to that Reading v Chelsea footie match that was replayed over, and over, and over on the BEEB. A soccer player gets his head taken off, and it’s fair game. A jock falls off a horse and it is deemed unfit for human consumption? Waddup with that?
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