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Well done to yesterday’s backers but I find his Arc odds most unappealing. Isn’t it justa case of, he’s the best 3-y-o middle distance colt in France, we’ll make him fav for the Arc. That race really couldn’t have panned out any better for him, well placed for when the pacemakers dropped away and much better positioned that the second and third. I think the style of the win far outweighs the substance of him and I wouldn’t want him onside at current prices.
I thought he looked a seriously good horse but as was mentioned earlier you’d want to be sure of him on softer ground before you’d be pileing in for the ARC at 5/1.
What I’d like to know is whether du royer dupre and the Aga Khan agree with the bookies assessment or whether they prefer Zarkava. I also wonder whether she’ll now run in the Arc… I hope so, but if they think she has the beating of Montmartre and with him having a live chance I think it is less likely….
Personally I think New Approach will beat him.
Apparently from the homework according to Du Royer Dupre (ATR) there is nothing between Zarkava and Montmatre.
Seriously impressive performance by Monmatre. Not overly certain how much the form amounts to or the ride given to Alessandro Volta who I expected to race more prominantly. Who am I to question Johnny Murtagh’s jockeyship however?
Very classy performance but I think the RP are a bit ott in calling him the best 3yo colt seen in action this term. Ok the bare form with Dr Freemantle makes him half a length superior to New Approach but being 2nd in two guineas and winning the Derby has to make NA the owner of that particular accolade. The best priced odds of 9-2 for him look a tad skinny compared to 8-1 about NA and 6-1 about Zarkava.
The trainer says Montmartre heads for the Prx Niel and then the Arc, he seems to being saying Zarkova may run but not if the ground is soft while he believes Montmartre will handle any ground. He is quoted as saying "It is very difficult to compare them because they never gallop together but they have both galloped with Sageburg over a mile and with the same weight. They both finished in the same position."
Whilst being impressive i’d agree with DJ that the race worked out well for him. The second made ground on him but as he was stone last turning in he didn’t have much hope against what is obviously a good colt.
Similar to Vision d’etat winning the jockey club and falco in the poulins.
Looked a strong pace to me; if anything I’d have thought he deserves extra credit for being able to race relatively prominently against it and not show any signs of suffering for it.
I agree with Gareth. The pace was strong which is what enabled the placed horses to pass the rest of the field in the straight. Extra credit is due to Montmartre for showing that turn of foot to go clear after tracking such a pace. He was mightily impressive and as a backer of Zarkava for the Arc, I’m a worried man.
The valid excuse used for his demise in the Prix du Jockey-Club was the rambunctious atmosphere and public address system causing him distress.
Personally, stepping from a E10,000 conditions race to a Group 1 Classic says it all but the Aga Khan and de Royer-Dupre had different opinions. They mustn’t have thought the step in class was an issue. And then this was all proved yesterday.
My worry refers us back to paragraph one: if the Jockey-Club meeting at Chantilly distressed him, Longchamp on Arc day equates to hardcore raving at Ibiza?
Whats the feeling about Zarkava getting the Arc trip? Looks a bit speedily bred to me and just being able to scrape hom over 12f is not quite enough for a race like the arc
If Montmatre is easily spooked, that does worry me. Is that the only sign of temperament hes shown?
Not a race i like to go ante post on simply because the going can be so very variable at that time of year. But Youmzain at 10’s ????
Whats the feeling about Zarkava getting the Arc trip? Looks a bit speedily bred to me and just being able to scrape hom over 12f is not quite enough for a race like the arc
If Montmatre is easily spooked, that does worry me. Is that the only sign of temperament hes shown?
Not a race i like to go ante post on simply because the going can be so very variable at that time of year. But Youmzain at 10’s ????
Her sire doesn’t inspire confidence in her getting 12f but she does have stamina on her dam’s side who is by Kahyasi. On a form line through Gagnoa she is a length superior to Moonstone so on that her form is not that outstanding and she has never raced against colts or beyond 10f.
As for Montmartre the stable believe he was spooked by the fanfare at Chantilly but he has not shown this in his other 4 outings all at Longchamps. There must be some concern however that on Arc day he will encounter a similar fanfare.
I wouldn’t go ante-post on this race either but if I had to Youmzain looks good ew value and will shorten if he wins the King George which he will need to to really put himself in the picture.
On a form line through Gagnoa she is a length superior to Moonstone so on that her form is not that outstanding and she has never raced against colts or beyond 10f.
Soumillon spent most of the last furlong gesturing to the crowd.. I would not make any assumptions based on that.. She could have won by 6 lengths had he opened her up..
Again i’d now be more concerned about her showing up… I can imagine the Aga Khan’s face if Zarkava beat Montmartre into second… Not so good for the stud value.. But then as a homebreeder would he care?
Again i’d now be more concerned about her showing up… I can imagine the Aga Khan’s face if Zarkava beat Montmartre into second… Not so good for the stud value.. But then as a homebreeder would he care?
Coolmore probably would
Undoubtedly.. I don’t know much about the Aga Khan’s breeding operation though.. What stud banner does he operate under?
Again i’d now be more concerned about her showing up… I can imagine the Aga Khan’s face if Zarkava beat Montmartre into second… Not so good for the stud value.. But then as a homebreeder would he care?
Me too as the word is she may run but only if the ground is not soft which hardly indicates the arc is her prime target.
The Aga Khan Studs consist of a stud farm in Ireland and 3 in France which includes stallions and broodmares.
Undoubtedly.. I don’t know much about the Aga Khan’s breeding operation though.. What stud banner does he operate under?
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