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Might I add Matron that it was gamble not I that used you as a vehicle for his macabre humour. As far as I am concerned, you are still top banana on here, and the tireless work you put in behind the scenes twenty years ago, not forgetting your interventions throughout two long decades and up to today are very much appreciated.🤹
Please see Jan above.
@razeen – now I have suitably softened up admin both physically and mentally I have primed you for a third time lucky…
Razeen…a hatchet job
Arzen …a back alleyGood luck Zareen
Same in GB, which is why Best Mate was cremated not buried. I think pet horses are allowed to be buried but not racehorses as they fall into the same bracket as agricultural animals.
Best Mate was cremated as it was during the foot & mouth outbreak and Defra refused permission for his body to be transported (failing to understand that horses do not suffer from foot and mouth and certainly can’t transmit it after death). These days you can bury any horse in England. In Scotland & Wales only “pet” horses may be buried. The definition of “pet” being “any animal belonging to a species normally nourished and kept, but not consumed, by humans for purposes other than farming”, which may or may not cover racehorses depending on the point of view of the official you’re dealing with. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/fallen-stock#horses
You should read Joe’s story Jay make sure to have the tissues ready.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...A lot of interesting things have been said/written on this thread, however I’m a bit surprised when new forumites arrive who appear to have some inside information about the discussed matter.
Lazarus for instance, knows pretty good how things will unfold at Cullentra, somehow he seems to have some information from inside the Gordon Elliott team.
Jancatlady on the other hand seems to be an expert when it comes to analizing pictures of deceased horses and is able to tell exactly what could have happened. I was just wondering why none of the experts on this forum came up with the same informations as she did. I mean there are a lot of people involved with horses over here, why did it take 54 pages and about 810 posts until someone came with a proper description of the deceased horse?
There is nothing wrong with that, in fact I’m happy about new and useful information no matter what the source is. It just comes a bit surprising to me….. as if people were just waiting for this to happen.
Just my thoughts, don’t take me too serious.
On the contrary: If you mean working with and/or keeping horses then I’d surmise that this applies to very few (percentage-wise) of TRF’s correspondents. The vast majority of us are simply members of Joe Public who happen to enjoy the sport, might take added pleasure in the graceful elegance of the beast and/or bet on the beauties winning a race
And it’s quite possible that those whose sole interest is the horse itself feel trepidatious about posting on a forum dominated by ‘who’s gonna win this race then’ type stuff
I might understand Ratings and Timefigures but the dynamics of Fetlocks, Frogs and Hocks are a mystery
I’m sure Jancatlady wouldn’t take offence if I were to say that her depiction of the dead horse is opinion, albeit the considered very credible opinion of one who works with horses, not a ‘proper description’, which strikes me as being nearly impossible to determine from such a low quality photo
The recent posts on the disposal of dead horses have been most interesting, thanks
Inside information
All of this ‘inside info’ was all over Twitter before Lazarus posted about it. KecMc, I do use Twiter now and then, but I rarely know all the possible sources this information came from.
Drone, if I read correctly between your lines, you seem the one she has convinced the most.
Which isn’t bad at all, because this part of the conversation is a lot more interesting than boring one about Elliott being “guilty” or “not guilty”….Really Jancatlady?
I am no expert but I think THM is probably right that it is illegal to bury a horse in Ireland. If so, would it be reasonable to think that any trainer burying a horse on her/his property could expect, quite apart from a prosecution, that she/he should face charges from the IHRB of bringing racing in disrepute for knowingly ignoring the law? What would an appropriate punishment be for a trainer in those circumstances?
Personally, I would regard illegally burying a dead horse as a more serious act than sitting on a dead horse.
“Personally, I would regard illegally burying a dead horse as a more serious act than sitting on a dead horse.”
Wouldn’t you say that one of the above is done out of love and the other out of not giving a toss?
I am very intrigued to read the posts by Jan. I don’t comment very often now as I radiotherapy has made it hard for me to spell and write grammar and you must let me off this.
What struck me was the difference of colour to the dead horse that they have called Morgan, this is because the photograph shows the horse on GE is a bay or brown and is a lighter colour than the actual Morgan shown on RP, here he is shown as a dark brown. I think the horse sitting on GE is a completely different horse. I also I had on a forum (might have even been this) that it was very the horse had not been saddled or bridled. Pleased Jan has noticed this and also pleased there is another woman posting!Here’s a pic of Morgan at the sales: https://secure.tattersalls.ie:8443/4DCGI/Entry/Images?EntryID=85354
Louise, please correct me, if I’m wrong. But the horse on this new pic is a bit darker than the Morgan Elliott is sitting on. “Your” Morgan looks more like the one Nathan posted in the Memorials section.
From The Guardian re Elliott’s day-to-day involvement. If he has any the punishment will be meaningless and the BHA should ban Foster’s runners in Britain:
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