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    You are seriously suggesting that a three time Grand National winning trainer shown to be joking around on the body of a dead racehorse would only damage his reputation and not the sport?

    I often have to defend racing against people who say it is cruel and that the participants do not care about the horses. I will continue to do so. But if that picture is genuine it will make it much more difficult.

    #1525832
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    He may have dealings ongoing with the IHRB already over other issues for all we know so it could be prudent to await developments as not to prejudice anything else.

    #1525833
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    Trial by social media with gossip and heresay,.all proof people have.
    All as Cheltenham comes into view.

    #1525834
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    It may also result in criminal investigations so I can understand why he isn’t giving details.

    I am sure it is fake. It seems an awkward way to sit on a horse (even a dead one) and the scale doesn’t seem quite right. The hand gesture is the big give-away for me though. You couldn’t stop his doing this after Tiger Roll’s 2nd National and literally anyone who was at Aintree or attended the “welcome home” celebration at the stables later could have taken one. Why would he be doing it in this situation though? Without the context of a second National, it makes no sense
    https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2019/04/07/tiger-roll-welcomed-home-after-emulating-red-rum-with-back-to-back-national-wins/

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    The part with his face just doesn’t look real to me.

    But why doesn’t anyone want to know what the name of the deceased horse is? Everybody is concerned about a fat millionaire, but not why horses die on gallops…..

    Just look at the Memorials section or try to remember the period shortly before Christmas when Easywork died on the gallops, Lucky Fella died minutes before the race at Ayr, Damage Control another 3-year old who just collapsed when jumping his first ever hurdle in public at Fairyhouse. All of them Gordon Elliott trained and all of them suffered heart attacks. No way there is a reasonable explanation for that….

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    I think some people are seriously underplaying how damaging to racing this image will be if it’s legitimate.

    It will be the go-to reference for the anti’s for the next few decades. Every patent truth about how much those who work with horses care for them, will be countered with this image. Every welfare advance of the last 20 years will be ignored by a public who don’t do nuance. It’s an instant snapshot of the cruelty of horseracing, just like those nice people at The League Against Cruel Sports have always said.

    It better be fake. Elliot’s response doesn’t fill me with confidence.

    Mike

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    Yeah ruby there is a reasonable explanation for it, stop talking utter conspiracy nonsense,

    This thread is comical. Should be deleted, worse than the paid journalists.

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    Ham, you seriously think that horses dropping dead while not racing is a normal thing and no one should talk about it?

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    I think it’s more about harsh realities than cruelty or neglect. A trainer with a string of 150+ horses deals with fatal injuries all too often and accepts it as part of the job. Perhaps that’s why he’s overly matter-of-fact about the situation. There even seems to be a stable joke about Elliott’s weight on the image caption – “he must have been riding this one and it’s carked it” sort of thing. There’s still no reason to suspect this horse was treated badly in life although obviously shown very little respect in death.

    If it’s genuine (and it seems to be), it’s a trainer called down to the gallops to oversee things after a fatal accident to a stable lesser light. Elliott’s main supporter Gigginstown are totally cutthroat and lacking sentiment even with horses who have done them a good service. It’s an ugly reality of the sport: these big operations are all business.

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    Most of the situation is in the public domain so yes, why shouldn’t it be debated ?

    #1525859
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    Anything from Ruby or Gary today? Any mentions at all?

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    “If it’s genuine (and it seems to be)”

    What makes you think that it “seems to be” genuine?

    #1525862
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    The photo in question

    elliot-horse

    #1525863
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    Hope it’s not genuine, as that’s quite sick

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    #1525865
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    The BHA apparently also into this:

    https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ihrb-promises-quick-investigation-of-disputed-gordon-elliott-image/475540

    Only thing that speaks for him, is why would he do that?

    Why hasn’t he denied anything yet?

    #1525868
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    That is a pretty sick and disrespectful thing to do to a horse and I hope this is a fake that has been expertly photo shopped.

    The fact that said ‘sick person’ is holding a mobile phone could actually help to prove that Gordon Elliot is or
    isn’t the culprit.

    We are all aware that our mobiles are spying on us at all times why not use the ‘digital footprint’ of his mobile to trace where he actually was when the image was taken. Surely the image would have a date and place associated to when it was uploaded so just find out where Gordon Elliot was when the image was taken and quickly knock this sick practice on the head.

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