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    Venture to Cognac
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    I usually have far too many in mind for this at this early stage, but only a few on my mind just now…..

    https://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/cheltenham-gold-cup/winner

    Dual Winner, Al Boum Photo is the obvious one, while Champ looks a real live one at 12’s. He divides opinion, but I like him.

    Presenting Percy could be a different proposition under the guidance of Gordon Elliot, while I haven’t completely given up on Delta Work.

    Santini is another obvious one, but he’s priced accordingly.

    It wouldn’t be a Gold Cup post without mentioning a couple of loud ones…..

    With Un De Sceaux retired, I wonder if the owners will go for broke this year with Bachasson, and he’s good at his best, as when last seen, though more realistically, he’ll be Ten, which isn’t ideal. I also think that Master Tommytucker could progress this year……….he just has to jump. I think he’s certainly more realistic than Bachasson, but he’s not even quoted. I like Tommy for Kempton, and the other I fancy for The King George, Real Steel, is also on the radar.

    There are two horses though, who I think are crazy prices, namely Lostintranslation & Easysland.

    I’m not sure why Lostintranslation is double the price of Santini, while Easysland is a proper exciting horse, and I’m confident he’s up to this, though The Cross Country is obviously a huge distraction.

    Shortlist
    Easysland 33’s
    Lostintranslation 14’s

    #1496169
    FinalFurlong91
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    Id say lostintranslation is that price because he didn’t stay strongly enough to win even in a steadily run race

    Id think he will take a lot of beating in the betfair chase and the 3 miler at Aintree though

    #1496172
    Nathan Hughes
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    Santini ran a cracker in March, could still be improving too
    and Champ has a big enough engine to be a contender if he can sharpen up his jumping

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    #1496174
    He Didnt Like Ground
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    I love lostintranslation , one thing to remember is the poor form if the the Tizzard yard during the festival , I thought he ran a stormer

    I wouldnt back champ with the next man’s money , he has an engine but his jumping is very iffy , I’m also wanting to see where Elliot goes with Battleoverdoyen ….I wonder if they will give him a breathing op , he jumped beautifully in the RSA but found nothing from 3 out

    #1496250
    Venture to Cognac
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    Yeah, I was looking at that angle myself HDLG.

    I suppose his run in The King George was too bad to be true, but still reckon he’s overpriced.

    As FF mentioned, must have a good chance of landing The Betfair again, so realistic opportunity of a decent trade.

    #1496345
    Lemons68
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    A lot will depend on how Topofthegame comes back after his injury, but he could be one that’s a bit of value at 16-1.

    I agree on Lostintranslation, he’s a big price at 14-1.

    His stablemates Reserve Tank and Slate House disappointed me last season, but if Tizzard can get them back to something like their best, then I would be interested in them too. It’s not a surprise though that they’re not in the market yet.

    #1496351
    fivelongdays
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    I’m a big fan of Champ. He’s clearly not got a problem with the course, he’s still improving, and he’s a good price. So he’s the one for me.

    Twitter=@PGHenn

    So don't run, just like the others always do

    #1496510
    All Jeff
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    I won’t be betting just now, but Champ or Santini for me at this early stage.

    #1496511
    Nathan Hughes
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    Monalee ran a blinder at the Festival
    50’s look quite big based on that run

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    #1504786
    greenasgrass
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    Allaho is my first bet in this. Received wisdom is that he doesn’t stay and will be going for the Ryanair but I don’t think that’s true. He has youth on his side – he’s only 6 and there’s stacks of scope for improvement I think. A gorgeous horse and I can’t wait to see him out.

    #1504793
    Cork All Star
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    No one has mentioned the obvious one: Al Boum Photo. He is still the one they all have to beat.

    I think his light campaign and naff name count against him! Yet I cannot see anything he beat reversing the form.

    Champ is the really interesting one. I reckon the Henderson team know he is better than Santini. If he can smarten up his jumping he will need to be taken very seriously.

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    greenasgrass
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    Agree with you about ABP- if he was called Champ, he would be everyone’s darling. Champ himself OTOH, I can’t have. He’ll get eaten alive in the GC if he jumps like that and you can’t turn a fundamentally rubbish jumper into a good jumper. And he’s too old.

    #1504890
    FinalFurlong91
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    Personally thought he was very lucky to win the RSA

    And only did so because allaho and minella indo took each other on far too early

    I think hed have lost even if Rachel blackmore hadn’t let minella indo move away from allaho, he seemed to get lonely and start idling, then when champ came past he started running on again

    #1505022
    Mike007
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    Santini 12-1

    #1505054
    MarkTT
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    I’d be interested in seeing Monalee front run and attempting Denman or Coneygree style tactics

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