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Point taken, but in fairness this is only if you are going racing on your own- buy 2 tickets for the same meeting from our site and you save £4 and pay only £2.50 fee so it is cheaper on our site.
It isnt a howler it is still cheaper to buy the tickets through the site unless you happen to be going to this meeting on your own, in which case agreed it is 50p more expensive so yes better to buy on the door.
Our figures show very very strongly that most people do not buy single tickets for meetings who book in advance. You can still save money from our site though if you are such a user e.g. the £8 off all Kempton tickets next year- you can’t get that on any other site.
Again though thanks again for all feedback, much appreciated.
Robin
Why don’t the BHA do some sort of loyalty scheme whereby if you buy ticket for say 75% of a course’s fixtures, then you get a siginifiacnt discount on a ticket for a big day at that same course
eg – Sandown had NH racing on 11 days last year so if somebody had bought a ticket for at least 8-9 of these, then they get 50% off Tingle Creek day or Betfred Gold Cup day next April.
This would encourage people to go racing on the not-so-glamorous days as opposed to just the big ones.
Good idea in principle Robin, but could you clarify the position regarding current discount schemes such as the ‘Go Racing in Yorkshire Season Ticket’ and ‘RUK Club Days’? Presumably your scheme will run in tandem with these rather than replace them.
I’d be grateful if you could answer my question BHA/Robin
I always thought the racegoer who visits two or more courses a total of say 15 or 20 times a year isn’t rewarded for their regular support of racing. He or she doesn’t want to go to any one course often enough to make the purchase of an annual members badge worthwhile, but will clock up a good number of visits in a year to a number of courses.
Some kind of multi-course season ticket where for perhaps £200 you can get entry to twenty meetings, at whichever venues you like, or £300 for thirty, is my suggestion. That might have to be limited to exclude Saturdays or Festivals; whatever it is should be as uncomplicated as possible.
I know you get £3 off most fixtures as a Racegoers Club member, but I doubt that’s big enough to affect anyone’s decision whether to go racing or not, whereas I think a season ticket like this would encourage people to go a bit more and use up their ration of twenty or thirty.
Why don’t the BHA do some sort of loyalty scheme whereby if you buy ticket for say 75% of a course’s fixtures, then you get a siginifiacnt discount on a ticket for a big day at that same course
eg – Sandown had NH racing on 11 days last year so if somebody had bought a ticket for at least 8-9 of these, then they get 50% off Tingle Creek day or Betfred Gold Cup day next April.
This would encourage people to go racing on the not-so-glamorous days as opposed to just the big ones.
Um – isn’t that effectively what an annual membership does – plus you get the reciprocal days as well?
Although I do appreciate it can be a great deal to lay out in one go.
There was a time when each year I would look at the membership deals for all the courses within 50 miles and then go for the one with the best reciprocal deals. It usually ended up being either Leicester or Huntingdon.
For example in 2008 Leicester had 30 home and 31 reciprocal fixtures for £225, working out at £3.69 a go if you go to them all and even if you only go to half it is a reasonable £7.38 a throw.
Point taken, but in fairness this is only if you are going racing on your own- buy 2 tickets for the same meeting from our site and you save £4 and pay only £2.50 fee so it is cheaper on our site.
Robin, why dont you tell it like it is. I go myself I pay more, I take the Mrs, we save a whopping 75p each. On top of which I have to register, provide email details and have no option to pick up the tickets at the racecourse on the day itself.
I’m all for racing promoting itself and fully support the concept but frankly your having a laugh.
Absolutely not true. Offering users 50% off tickets for the Long Walk Hurdle at Ascot is not having a laugh. Neither is 50% off Victor Chandler Chase day, FREE racing at Musselburgh, Cheaper entry/free drink/Free bet at Peterboro chase day at Huntingdon, £8 off racing at Kempton all 2009…..
Neither are the excellent reviews/ratings we are achieving in the press.
Or the increases in ticket sales we have had since the site started.
I’m sorry we couldnt save you more money from your meeting at Plumpton, but the hundreds of people who have already taken advantage of the order of Merit offer at Ascot proves that we are not "having a laugh".
Its amazing to think that because one user could only save a couple of quid from one meeting you are willing to slate the entire initiative, meanwhile hundreds of other users are using the site and saving money.
Its up to you if you want to use the site or not, but all the people who are saving money on their racing are not "having a laugh". Well, actually they probably are and good on them. I just hope for your sake we dont do a promotion at plumpton like we are doing at musselburgh where there is free entry if booked in advance through us, and you missed it….
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I went to Wolverhampton for the 10 race card Hinton Trial day, me and my mother got in for £2.50 all together + a free race card lol.
Many thanks, and please feel free to let me know your feedback on the site- we would love to take your views into account.
I gave you some feedback based on MY experience of using YOUR website to purchase a ticket for Plumpton on the 15th. Its worthless.
Nice to see group deals for larger drinkers on already popular racedays while a die hard like myself cant save 2 quid to see some grassroots racing on a weekday.
Good luck with it anyway.
Good idea in principle Robin, but could you clarify the position regarding current discount schemes such as the ‘Go Racing in Yorkshire Season Ticket’ and ‘RUK Club Days’? Presumably your scheme will run in tandem with these rather than replace them.
I’d be grateful if you could answer my question BHA/Robin
Well I’ll answer my own question. Just received the new RUK Club package with its usual free days and discounts, so all’s well there.
Charmed I’m sure Mr.BHA
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If the intiative is to provide discounts, substantial or otherwise, to racegoers, Robin, then where is the logic in making it more expensive for individuals? Why should group bookings be the only beneficiaries of this self-proclaimed wonder scheme?
I haven’t spent more than thirty seconds on the website, as I would rather see my money go straight to the course and wouldn’t admit to being fond of its design, but am I right to assume that the adminstration fee is applied to all bookings? If this is indeed the case, is that pure profit for the BHA or does it go to the course for which tickets have been booked?
I don’t mind paying to go racing as long as the cost is justified by the course’s facilties and the quality of action on offer. Perhaps more effort should be made to fine tune and standardise ticket pricing, as well as limiting how much any one course can charge for food and drink. Obviously racecourses, like all sporting venues, operate as businesses and charge what they feel they can get away with, but is there any point in saving £2 when you pay double that for a pint? I used to work for a company who supplied bar staff to racecourses and I was sometimes embarassed to tell people how much their bill had come to.
Just out of interest, how are you able to offer the discounts you claim? How do the involved racecourses view the intiative, given that their pre-raceday turnover is presumably affected (until such time as the advertised increase in demand makes up for the shortfall in sales revenue, of course)?
The other problem I had with booking tickets via the BHA is that I had to wait until five days before I went (to Plumpton) to receive my tickets. However, I paid for those tickets appoximately two months before I went and my money was taken immediately.
What other business will take your money without providing what you actually paid for, for such an unnacceptable length of time. And then I sent an email questioning exactly why this was and received what can only be best described as an oikish response that ultimately made me feel like the BHA were the victims and I a pestering inconvenience.
I won’t be doing it again Mr BHA man/woman/thing.
I’ll certainly check the site out but at the moment the only tickets we buy in advance are our Cheltenham ones; we sometimes go to Uttoxeter when there is an offer of cheap tickets in the local paper [don’t find the card at Uttoxeter these days worth the entry fee] and we have bought reduced rate tickets for Kelso in the past [not sure where we got them from; drove to an office in the Borders]but Kelso is such good value that we’re not bothered about getting a reduction anyway. Although we don’t mind cold weather we have been racing in torrential rain and I can’t say I enjoyed it much, so our plans do depend on the weather forecast. Probably more annoyed about the cost of train travel to the racecourses; always used to go the Cheltenham on the train; bought cheap day return tickets, until a few years ago they were no longer available so we had to spend a fortune to stand squashed on a train for hours..we now go in the car and Cheltenham have put the price of parking up from £5 to £8 in advance.Free beer is no good to us because we don’t drink at all when we’re driving.
Surely most people who often go racing will be Racegoers Club members, who’s discounts are it seems in most cases a lot better. And you do not have to make up your mind until the day.
Any initiative is better than none, but if the discount is so small in many cases or even non-existent it may turn in to an own goal.
Mark
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Forgetting the lack of requirement for a site of this nature, and the negligible savings it appears to offer in comparison to other discount services, why do the domain details not match those of britishhorseracing.com?
The domain name is currently registered to your designers, the title and description tags for each page are utterly useless, the site is hosted on different servers, no contact information is provided (other than for your designers) and your security certificate has been provided by another company entirely.
I had always presumed that the BHA would host their own website and maintain some degree of consistency in any subsidiaries of its operation.
In addition to my previous questions, how much planning went into gojumpracing.com and who a) thought of the idea, and b) set about implementing it?
If the intiative is to provide discounts, substantial or otherwise, to racegoers, Robin, then where is the logic in making it more expensive for individuals? Why should group bookings be the only beneficiaries of this self-proclaimed wonder scheme?
I haven’t spent more than thirty seconds on the website, as I would rather see my money go straight to the course and wouldn’t admit to being fond of its design, but am I right to assume that the adminstration fee is applied to all bookings? If this is indeed the case, is that pure profit for the BHA or does it go to the course for which tickets have been booked?
I don’t mind paying to go racing as long as the cost is justified by the course’s facilties and the quality of action on offer. Perhaps more effort should be made to fine tune and standardise ticket pricing, as well as limiting how much any one course can charge for food and drink. Obviously racecourses, like all sporting venues, operate as businesses and charge what they feel they can get away with, but is there any point in saving £2 when you pay double that for a pint? I used to work for a company who supplied bar staff to racecourses and I was sometimes embarassed to tell people how much their bill had come to.
Just out of interest, how are you able to offer the discounts you claim? How do the involved racecourses view the intiative, given that their pre-raceday turnover is presumably affected (until such time as the advertised increase in demand makes up for the shortfall in sales revenue, of course)?
Dear Equitrack,
Thanks for your reasonable questions. Just to let you know all proceeds through the gojumpracing site go straight to the racecourses (including booking fee), it is completely non profit for the BHA with the end result being designed to promote racing and get more people going.
If we can achieve this then it can only be good for the sport. All of the discounts on the site are agreed with the racecourses themselves as a joint initiative to promote racing at their courses. They are completely behind the initiative and are already starting to see some benefits.
I appreciate everyone’s right to have an opinion on this site- that is what forums are for, and that is why we posted here to get the message out to you guys and ultimately you decide if you want to use it.
A quick question back for you guys- are any of you planning to attend-
– The Long Walk Hurdle day? (50% off on gojumpracing.com)
– Victor Chandler Chase? (50% off on gojumpracing.com)
– Meetings at Kempton next year? (£8 off on gojumpracing.com)
– John Smiths Cheltenham trials at Musselburgh? (free on gojumpracing.com)If yes, will you rather pay full price on the door or receive the above savings? Its totally your choice of course, but for all its faults do you see that there could be benefits in this for you, and in the long run if more people are going racing, that that could be good for the sport?
Please also bear in mind that the site has ONLY JUST launched and these are just the first promotions we have put up. Maybe none of these courses are good for you, someone on one board said there are no Northern courses amongst these and the point was taken and we are working on this, but this is just the beginning.
Please just bear this in mind- the next time you’re planning a big day out at the racing and you get there and find everyone else has saved 50% off their tickets through the site it might just have been worth using!
All the best anyway
Rob "BHA Man/Woman/Thing"
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