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Good post, I agree it’s likely we’ll have the same field as in the Ryanair Hurdle. Your argument is good but I’d counter that Hurricane Fly stays very well and a strongly run race will come to him just the same.
You’re probably right THM, Hurricane Fly is equally effective in a relatively slow or strongly run race. I just feel a comparitively slow pace played in to his hands because it (imo) may have suited him
more
than it did the other pair. Where as if truly run it will be a level playing field, Hurricane Fly possibly running equally as well, but enabling Jezki and/or Our Conor to produce better performances than they did last time.
Value Is EverythingGood post, I agree it’s likely we’ll have the same field as in the Ryanair Hurdle. Your argument is good but I’d counter that Hurricane Fly stays very well and a strongly run race will come to him just the same.
You’re probably right THM, Hurricane Fly is equally effective in a relatively slow or strongly run race. I just feel a comparitively slow pace played in to his hands because it (imo) may have suited him
more
than it did the other pair. Where as if truly run it will be a level playing field, Hurricane Fly possibly running equally as well, but enabling Jezki and/or Our Conor to produce better performances than they did last time.
That’s a fair point, the others should be sen to better effect alright. If the three will turn up, hopefully the race will tell us more than the Ryanair did!
Hurricane Fly should beat these if the ground comes up soft or worse. I get the impression although I have no concrete evidence that Jezki and Our Conor would be benefited against the Fly on better ground in particular OC whose best performance was at Cheltenham and had good in the going.
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2:40 Haydock
34 points @ 11/1 (SJ) Act Of Kalanisi* (min 17/2)
54 points @ 5/2 (PP) Melodic Rendezvous* (min 9/4)Value Is Everything3:15 Ascot
34 points @ 11/2 (C) Theatrical Star* (min 11/2)saver:
7 points @ 10/1 (L) Big Fella Thanks (min 10/1)Value Is EverythingHurricane Fly should beat these if the ground comes up soft or worse. I get the impression although I have no concrete evidence that Jezki and Our Conor would be benefited against the Fly on better ground in particular OC whose best performance was at Cheltenham and had good in the going.
I reckon the ground was soft enough by the time the Triumph was run. There was a very heavy shower before the off if I remember correctly and the horse and jockeys were destroyed in much coming in. As far as I know the times back this up, being the slowest running of the Triumph for some time (definitely saw a list of past winners and times somewhere in the past week but can’t find it now no matter what I google!). That’s not to say Our Conor won’t improve for fast ground, just that he’s unproven on it imo.
Agreed THM, ground in the Triumph was "officially" good-soft, but there’s little doubt it rode softer than that. Another reason why I believe a stamina test suits Our Conor better.
Value Is EverythingYou could be right but Irish soft and English soft are two different things.
I think…….
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You could be right but Irish soft and English soft are two different things.
I think……. Very true Nathan but……..
Timeform Irish Soft and Timeform English Soft ARE the same thing.
Value Is Everything1:50 Ascot
49 points @ 7/2 (PP) Caroles Spirit* (min 100/30)
33 points @ 11/2 (WH) Highland Retreat* (min 11/2)Value Is Everything3:15 Ascot
34 points @ 11/2 (C) Theatrical Star* (min 11/2)saver:
7 points @ 10/1 (L) Big Fella Thanks (min 10/1)36 points @ 9/2 (PP) Tatenan (min 9/2)
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50 points @ 3.81 (betfair) Somersby* (min 72)Savers:
39 points @ 11/8 (generally) Sire De Grugy (min 11/8)
3 points @ 31/1 (betfair) Oiseau De Nuit (min 28/1)(£6 available)There’ll probably be 6/4 SDG available tomorrow morning if you want to wait.
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27 points @ 7.2/1 (betfair) Vintage Star* (min 13/2)(£27 available)Value Is Everything3:15 Haydock
27 points @ 7.2/1 (betfair) Vintage Star* (min 13/2)(£27 available)Will put this bet up now, but you’ll need to wait until tomorrow morning. It’s Pricewise @ 5/1, but I’ll say 9/2 as doubt if much 5’s will be available.
saver:
14 points @ 9/2 (generally) Katenko (min 9/2)There’s another main bet to come in this race, probably tomorrow morning.
Value Is EverythingWith main bets Highland Retreat and Melodic Rendezvous winning, plus saver bet Sire De Grugy a profit of +152.13 for today.
2011/2012 Season Profit +1552.85 points
2012/2013 Season Profit +4470.00 points2013/14 Season so far +557.73 points
Total Thread Profit +6580.58 points
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