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    What did you think of the ride of Sean Levy on Mustadeem in the 2:35 Newbury today?

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    ‘set suicidal pace’ .. why?

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    My thoughts exactly Joe. imo Eddie Ahern got banned for doing something similar.

    I was at Newbury today and was amazed when Levy went off at a ridiculous pace and it wasn’t as if the horse was pulling, jockey was the one wanting to go that pace. Mustabeen 25 lengths clear rounding the turn and finished by two out. I’d be very interested to see what Simon Rowlands says about the sectionals.

    I was so insenced when I saw Sean Levy walking back from paddock to weighing room I looked at him straight in the eye and told him “that was the worst ride I’ve seen this season”.

    Didn’t expect him to say anything and he ignored me. But I tought, am not going to leave it at that. I asked the doorman for the weighing room “could speak to the stewards please”. Think he thought I was a trainer or something. Told me to go through the door and wait on the right. Then, I was called to talk to the stewards; standing there like you see jockeys, in front of the panel.

    I asked if they were “looking in to the running and riding of Mustadeem”?

    Chris Rutter (Stipe) was obviously puzzled, “why”, he said.

    “Because it was an injudicious ride, going off at 6f speed over 1m2f”…
    And this amazed me!!!

    He reckons… “As long as the trainer told the jockey to ride the horse that way, there’s nothing wrong with it”. This is a ******* STIPE! :negative:

    (quotes are the gist, not absolute quotes obviously).

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    Nothing wrong with pacemakers Nathan, as long as they go a strong 1m2f pace for a 1m2f race; not when they go 6f pace over 1m2f.

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    lol Ginge, I was taking the piddle.
    However Levey has a good head on his shoulders and should of surely known he was cutting his mounts throat. Same colours as the well backed winner who outstayed the fav at the end. It’s easy to say the leader has gone off too quick and ignore him but if your mount has never ran that far before then it’s going to play into your mind a bit like the interfering with play offside rule.

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    lol Ginge, I was taking the piddle.
    However Levey has a good head on his shoulders and should of surely known he was cutting his mounts throat. Same colours as the well backed winner who outstayed the fav at the end. It’s easy to say the leader has gone off too quick and ignore him but if your mount has never ran that far before then it’s going to play into your mind a bit like the interfering with play offside rule.

    I thought the better horse won and I would back Intillaq to beat Consort if they met at a mile.

    As to Sean Levey, he must have had a rush of crap to the head, or perhaps thought he should ride as if he was on Mark Johnston’s Resonant (Shunted in a two horse race today incidentally :unsure: )

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    During the race the commentator wondered if they’d let him too loose at the front and after the race the winning jockey himself expressed that he did have a few moments concern when he saw the lead. ‘A nightmare for jockeys’ was I think how Mick Fitz described it when one goes away like that.

    But I’d have paid good money to see you in front of the stewards GT. Good on you!

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    There must be some good examples of one holding on to a massive lead when the other shave ignored the pace?

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    There must be some good examples of one holding on to a massive lead when the other shave ignored the pace?

    Bertimont in the Free Handicap Hurdle at Chepstow (don’t think it even has a name these days) last year.

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    There must be some good examples of one holding on to a massive lead when the other shave ignored the pace?

    It can only be done if those behind mistakingly think the one in front has gone far too quick. It can not be done when the leader goes off at a suicidal pace… Unless you’re riding Frankel (2000 Guineas).

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    I’ll be very interested to see what Simon Rowlands says about the sectionals.

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    But I’d have paid good money to see you in front of the stewards GT. Good on you!

    When I felt a tap on the shoulder and the doorman showed me the door – did wonder whether I was going to be frogmarched out of the racecourse. :wacko:

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    Two Richard Hills Gr 1 winners at Ascot come to mind, Summoner and Maroof. Though I doubt either was ridden recklessly.

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    There must be some good examples of one holding on to a massive lead when the other shave ignored the pace?

    Hail Caesar, funnily enough ridden by Sean Levey at Gowran Park in 2009.

    Quite rightly there, Seamie Heffernan the rider of the second who was a stable companion of the winner received a ban for riding an injudicious race. He was only interested in riding to beat the second fav, safe in the knowledge that his stable companion would win if they made their effort too late, which he did.

    Newbury looked like a clear case of riding to benefit another horse, does anyone really think he would have been ridden like that if the winner hadn’t been in the same ownership?

    Would Together Forever have gone as fast as she did in the Irish Oaks without Curvy and Words in the race?

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    He reckons… “As long as the trainer told the jockey to ride the horse that way, there’s nothing wrong with it”.

    That would be the question that needs answering before all blame goes toward Sean Levey. I cant see why he would go off at that ridiculous pace unless told to do so. It was a bit puzzling at the time as I thought Mustadeem had good enough form to challenge the unknown quantity of the front two without the need to race like that.

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    “As long as the trainer told the jockey to ride the horse that way, there’s nothing wrong with it”.

    I can see this taking off.

    Steward – ‘why did you drop your hands near the line, in doing so losing first place’?
    jockey – ‘because the trainer told me to ride the horse that way’
    steward – ‘fair enough, nothing wrong with that’

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