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Surely victories such as these are what draws the younger crowd to the track. Where else is the opportunity to legally make a little money so apparent?Get involved ,stage a coup and have a party. Nothing wrong there that I can see.
I tend to agree with this.
I haven’t been to the bookies for a few weeks but with some certainty I believe I can say if I had been in there yesterday and Sunday (Raslan) all the boys would have been on – and a jolly good time would have been had by all.
Just watched the finish of the race and whereas normally you see at least a few people by the winning post jumping and cheering, I have never ever seen such a less animated group of people on the line. Which seems remarkable considering the price was 5/1….obviously very few of your average punters were on.
A foolproof method of finding out who was on would be the bookies witholding payment. That invariably smokes out those behind the market moves and it’s invariably insiders, often the same ones that knew nothing of any bets immediately post race.
Update from today’s Racing Post. Dean Coleman is reported as having been ill, to have had a dental problem and to have had a puncture.
On the last-named, does anyone know how far from Hereford he lives? He was replaced as the jockey on Am I Blue nearly two hours before the race, which suggests he could have got a lift to the track to ride this well-handicapped horse if he had REALLY wanted to, providing he does not currently reside in Timbucktoo…
His address in Directory of The Turf 2010 is "c/o T Vaughan, Aberthin".
That’s Dean Coleman, not the horse, obviously.
Prufrock’s post…Dean Coleman is reported as having been ill, to have had a dental problem and to have had a puncture
And to top it all, he misses out on a winner! Now that’s what I call ‘a bad day at the office’. Some guys have all the luck!
Just watched the finish of the race and whereas normally you see at least a few people by the winning post jumping and cheering, I have never ever seen such a less animated group of people on the line. Which seems remarkable considering the price was 5/1….obviously very few of your average punters were on.
Well it was very quiet down by the last hurdle, Ken. Only a big guy in a blue sweater could be heard in vocal support for the run away victor, beware men in blue sweaters?
…Only a big guy in a blue sweater could be heard in vocal support for the run away victor
Did he look anything like Tom Jones, I wonder? Was he singing: "My, My, My Delyth,
Why, Why, Why Delyth,
So before, they come to
break down your door,
Forgive me Delyth,
I just couldn’t take any more"The welsh mafia tried a similar touch last year if I remember correctly. Very blatant IMO.
You should know its the Taffia not the Mafia. Delyth is quite a brilliant lady as far as horses is concerned. She will talk the bollocks off the BHA thats for sure.
Update from today’s Racing Post. Dean Coleman is reported as having been ill, to have had a dental problem and to have had a puncture.
He was also reported pre-race to have had a fall on the gallops in the morning.
Yes a gamble has been landed. However I would be interested to know how much was won.
Up to half a million quid according to Lysaght on national radio last night:-
Several references on this thread to ‘stable’, ‘small stable’ etc.
This horse isn’t in a stable – it’s the only horse currently running in the name of Mrs Thomas. This permit holder has produced two winners in the last twenty years, both provided by the same horse (Timidjar) in selling handicaps.
The stewards may have questioned Mrs Thomas after the race, but there must be some doubt as to whether they questioned the trainer of the horse, which will presumably form part of the BHA investigation.
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More speculation on this theme from the Guardian:-
In some ways it’s good to see that some hacks are finally emerging from their shells and beginning to ask questions.
Let’s hope they continue in that vein regardless of the status of jockeys and trainers. Perhaps, initially, it will attract dark clouds over the sport but it can only serve to bring greater integrity to racing, long term.
More power to their elbows.
I asked the guy in the blue jumper (who did look like tom jones) ‘Do you often back these well gambled horses ?’—-
he replied ”ITS NOT UNUSUAL !”sombody said the bookies should not pay out that way the identity of the gamblers would be known. Surely the bookies are the known gamblers. They took all the bets. Now they are supposed to say we only pay out when we win!We with hold when we lose.Why not investigate the bookies who accepted those bets? It takes two to tango.Can you just warn off one party to the crime?
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