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  • #1719678
    Mike007
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    Wilts trainer has said no to Final Demand for Bartlett which gives Kopek stronger chance of going to the Supreme than it looked 10 minutes ago.

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    Avatar photoWilts
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    :good:
    My bet is antepost but they’re offering a tidy cash out at the mo.
    I already cashed out my Sir Gino/Con Hill double over Christmas, so i think i’ll keep the Kopek bet ‘live’. Just hope it is the Supreme.

    #1719694
    GM23
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    I think Skeltons going to have a few nightmares tonight lol. He was looking pretty good for this until yesterday.

    #1720318
    Tizaaards Cider
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    Mister meggit gone wrong or something does anyone know?

    Can’t find him priced up for this on oddschecker! He was a few weeks ago so I’m taking it he’s out for the season?

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    TakeYourTime
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    AJ O’Neil was quoted in mid-January saying the following:

    “He [Mister Meggit] had a little setback, so we won’t be in any rush to run him until he’s 100%.

    “He’s in training, we just don’t want to rush him and do anything too soon.”

    “Something in the spring.”

    Looks like he’s not going to make Cheltenham but maybe Aintree is on the cards :unsure:

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    TakeYourTime
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    I’ve bet Kappa Jy Pyke for this each way at 33s. Willie spoke highly of him in a recent stable interview and I’d be confident this will be the race for him.

    #1722092
    JonnyLitts
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    Two at the top of the market.

    The new lion hasn’t yet come off the bridle, sauntering home in all but one of his races. He was so so impressive lto beating his nearest rival by 4½L, putting the race easily to bed while showing an excellent turn of foot. 2nd, 4th, and 5th have all come out and won since. To put a grade1 to bed like that is impressive.

    Skelton is bullish about coming back in trip and in the champion hurdle next year.

    3 of those behind him at his last but one start have also won but none of them have really been at the same level as the races they’ve met in.

    My only criticism of him is that he’s not been tested to see what he can come up with but Skelton said he’s never had a horse like him, saying Willie has this good a horse all the time.

    If Final Demand comes here and the ground is anywhere near good, he’ll struggle to make an impression with the new lion’s turn of foot, he is a definite gold cup horse of the future. As I said above, I think he’s unlikely to run here but the market has contracted on him :-(

    Next is The Yellow Clay. He’s unbeaten over obstacles and won by 8L lto, beating his stable companion Wingmen by 11L. Wingmen was easily beaten 12L by Final Demand in his next race so there is a form line to him.

    He’s definitely got an each way shot.

    James’s gate is next, he’s been mostly racing over 2m and winning. He has had one race over 2m3f, one has come out and won since from that race (at 2m). Not sure he has the stamina at this extended race.

    Willie Twiston-Davies was, unusually, not very bullish about Potter’s Charm so I’ll give him a dodge.

    I was going to leave Sixmilebridge out of my writeup, thinking he is going for the longer race.

    However, he did beat Potter’s Charm by 8L at Cheltenham lto (while getting 5lb). As I said, Willie Twiston-Davies wasn’t bullish so it seems like he was very underpar that day so performance not that worthy.

    Selection

    The New Lion @2.87
    The Yellow Clay Ew @6.50

    #1722149
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    Although ground matters, Jonny. I think with Mullins, who goes where depends a lot on what else he’s got for the big races and other big races.

    With the Turners, I do agree Final Demand would have a better chance on softer (both an increased test of stamina at the trip and seems to have quite a rounded action too)… If FD does not run in the Turners Mullins wouldn’t have anything else with a good chance of winning it. Next best in the race are currently available @ 36 and 38 on the machine, Kaid D’Authie and Kiss Will.

    It’ll be officially either good-soft or good-soft, good in places anyway.

    Admittedly hasn’t got anything else in single figures for the Albert Bartlett either (Jasmin De Veaux at 13) but Willie has always been less keen on that race – Turners is a lot more prestigous.

    But the Albert Bartlett is imo likely to be even more suitable for The Yellow Clay, whose impressive performance last time was in very deep ground. Possibly going for the Turners due to owner and trainer also having Wingmen who would imo be even less suited by a fast Turners.

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    #1722261
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    Looks like you were right Ginger, I’d rather not have the competition from a very good horse but I think, on the weather forecast, The New Lion will have too much for him.

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    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Back on Supersundae. Looks to have a mountain to climb, but as I was going to sit this out if he wasn’t declared, I’ll hope that he’s in the form he was before DRF. That wouldn’t be good enough either, but I’d expect him to easily outrun current odds if back to that level. If he’s fairly unpopular in the markets, hope I could beat that 100’s too

    Supersundae EW4Pls/66’s EW

    #1722554
    All Jeff
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    Kiss Will for me at 25-1 ew

    #1722813
    greenasgrass
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    Kaid d’Authie got a nice word from the trainer so I’ll give him another chance at 28s ew.

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    The New Lion is one of the few English horses that could be a superstar … I hope so

    #1722923
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    The Yellow Clay 13/2 – Free bet, form ties in a bit with Final Demand, maybe underestimated a touch.

    Final Demand – Had to have a lil poke, so impressive last time and hoss miles back won that listed race etc etc.

    Am I going to regret not backing The New Lion??????? Dunno, I just have that funny feeling he’s been a bit, well, overrated. Prove me wrong if you want mate. Good game.

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    Hard to pick holes in the top two, but Potters Charm is a pretty mad price considering how well thought of he was earlier in the season. It’ll be a relatively quiet day for me today, so it’ll be a small go.

    #1722968
    greenasgrass
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    Kaid D’Authie is 50s now, or 33s without the fav which I think is a good bet, he’s got a decent chance of making the top 4.

    #1722975
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    A small e/w interest on
    Kel Histoire at 40/1
    :good:

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