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Think you’re right Ken, I should give up, just put Woolfie straight on a few more things first.
I noted his main bets over Friday and Saturday, he was down 62 points on his strongest selections. I hope he was backing 10p a point.
Umm, NO you didn’t Woolfie.
My "main bets" for the Friday and Saturday added up to a good deal more than 62 points. It was my 3 main selections in the Ladbroke that added up to 62 points on their own. One of the saver bets won, getting back all my stake money plus a very small profit on the race.I know you try to make out that the 62 points is a big amount Woolfie. But as I’ve explained before:
62 points in my 10 to 100 points staking plan is the same as:
6.2 points in anyone elses 1 to 10 point staking plan… Or:
0.62 points in a 0.1 to 1 point staking plan.My betting on the Friday and Saturday consisted of:
Bets in one race on the Friday. The saver won and I made NO PROFIT / NO LOSS on the race/day.
I had bets in four races on the Saturday. In only one race did I NOT get the winner.
With 1 selection in one race, the winner @ 7/1, GOOD PROFIT.
1 selection in another race @ 7/4 (less 10p R4) another winner (my only saver a non-runner) GOOD PROFIT.
Aforementioned race with 7 selections a saver won VERY SMALL PROFIT.
In another race 3 selections no winner, A FAIR LOSS.
Which means I made a
profit of +283.65 points
on the two days. So who cares about those 62 points that lost Woolfie?
Value Is EverythingYour bookies are perfectly happy to pay out regularly on these bets I assume. I know there are many who might have a problem long term.
I don’t have all my bets in the one race with the same bookmaker Woolfie, they rarely know I am backing several in one race.
Like any punter making a regular profit I get problems from time to time. One bookmaker has closed my account Woolfie. Some send every bet I stake to a trader who says yes accept the bet in full, limit it to a certain amount, win only (no each way) or refuse the bet outright. Some are happy for me to do what I like.
Value Is EverythingAnother thread about something and nothing turns into 5 pages of claim and counter-claim – BORING!
Can these not be moved to the Lounge rather than cluttering up the HR section…..?
Another thread about something and nothing turns into 5 pages of claim and counter-claim – BORING!
Can these not be moved to the Lounge rather than cluttering up the HR section…..?
But then prof won’t get his attention and ginge doesn’t get to feed his ego by arguing with a blatant troll
I’m quite astounded that these threads have been able to continue unabated since the spring despite the banging of the "he’s clearly an attention seeking troll – why are you feeding him?" drum. I know that there is the option of ignoring these threads but they honestly are a painfully irksome slight on an otherwise fine forum. The tacit acceptance of this kind of behaviour has to be damaging in the long run since it must surely be putting off potential newcomers. I know that if my first experience of this forum was reading one of these threads or a thread which stated that racing is fixed because Coolmore obviously threw the St Leger, I wouldn’t bother with a second experience.
I do like the idea of moving these awful, awful threads to the lounge (or the bin). Perhaps another idea would be to prevent prof from actually starting threads as his ‘threads started’/’posts in other threads’ ratio must be the highest on this forum by a long stretch. Or he could simply be banned outright since Pinza and Pompette (an actual, self confessed troll) got away with considerably less.
Bach, Pompete as far as I know isn’t banned, he’s just sulking. He posted on 3/3/12 then went on strike but came back 25/8/12 to laugh at my Somerset losing to his Hampshire in the cricket and then went back on strike.
Ginge, I’m going to be donating £10 anyway before the New year, just wanted to encourage Woolfie to go along with Bachelor’s idea.
Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
Bach, Oasis – sorry but I don’t see anything wrong with this thread. The fact that it’s run to quite a few posts shows that others are interested too.
It’s really just turned into a put up or shut up challenge to someone who fancies himself as a punter. Nowt wrong with that in my view!
Obviously the Prof is a bit of a nutjob but when people respond in a thread of his they frequently move into other areas of interest. All harmless stuff really.
Mike
What festive fun this thread’s provided, thanks all
Gingerprofits, may I ask why you continue to spout the same old mantra? It’s a good ol’ harmonious, if somewhat contrapuntal mantra but even the best melodies grow wearisome after 10K airings, and I have to admit whizzing through them at 78rpm rather than the intended 33 for some years now.
You should have realised long ago that ugly reinforced concrete walls harbouring nutty professors and rabid wolves cannot be demolished with craftsmen’s chisels
0.00524% of the monstrous edifice has your name carved in it, why be greedy and insist on 0.00545%? It will catch no new eyes, nor new disciples
Admittedly I haven’t actually read any of his output in recent years, but I understand from others that Mr Palmer’s schtick is of the louche, gut-instinct, basically loss-prone punter who entertains all-and-sundry with his witty repartee and defiance in the face of adversity and/or reality.
I believe he occupies that niche market served by quasi-‘pro-gaamblahs’ embellished with faux-cockney accents, tiresome backslang, made-up Runyonesque pals and fairytale gambling books. Surely nobody takes any of them seriously?
VG Mr. Large, you are truly king of the cliched axiomatic truism or should that be axiomatic cliched truism, true axiomatic cliche, or cliched true axiom? vote big, vote Large
great stuff guys – Bogbrush
Bach, Pompete as far as I know isn’t banned, he’s just sulking. He posted on 3/3/12 then went on strike but came back 25/8/12 to laugh at my Somerset losing to his Hampshire in the cricket and then went back on strike.
Nathan, correct as always…..and I’ll be back when we do the same next year
Anyhow, remember this, my homage to the King of Punters…..Steve Palmer
What festive fun this thread’s provided, thanks all
Gingerprofits, may I ask why you continue to spout the same old mantra? It’s a good ol’ harmonious, if somewhat contrapuntal mantra but even the best melodies grow wearisome after 10K airings, and I have to admit whizzing through them at 78rpm rather than the intended 33 for some years now.
You should have realised long ago that ugly reinforced concrete walls harbouring nutty professors and rabid wolves cannot be demolished with craftsmen’s chisels
0.00524% of the monstrous edifice has your name carved in it, why be greedy and insist on 0.00545%? It will catch no new eyes, nor new disciples
Drone, BH, Oasis,
I am sorry if you’ve heard my "mantra" before or feel my "ego" is getting the better of me. Not every thread or post is aimed at you. Not everyone will be interested in every thread/post. Feel free to "wizz through them" I won’t be offended. Realise us TRF oldstagers have heard many subjects before and aren’t interested hearing them again.I am certainly not looking for "disciples" and am fairly sure my work has never been described as "contrapuntal". Learn a new word every day from you Drone.
These trolls are convinced the world of racing is bent and left unchecked may infect genuine racing enthusiasts who visit this forum. In essence they are ignorant of the mathematics of betting. If (admittedly a big IF) they can learn to grasp the fundamentals – then they’d be able to see the error of their ways. eg How often do we hear "Nobody could foresee that outsider winning, therefore must be some skulduggery involved"? If they’d only stop to think that these outsiders win the percentage of races they are expected to win – It may or may not stop them themselves from thinking "the game is bent" – but it should stop them infecting others who may leave our sport because of it.
Value Is EverythingJust read the entire thread with a whopper of a hangover – not advisable
Sizing Europe and Rubi Light going toe to toe down the back at Leopardstown was a great tonic though!
These trolls are convinced the world of racing is bent and left unchecked may infect genuine racing enthusiasts who visit this forum. In essence they are ignorant of the mathematics of betting. If (admittedly a big IF) they can learn to grasp the fundamentals – then they’d be able to see the error of their ways
I was actually paying you a compliment albeit in a backhanded, round ‘n’ about way
The Gingercharity is an estimable organization though I fear you have a sisyphean task, though I dare say you’ve realised that by now
Anyway, shouldn’t a Gingerpro keep schtum if the continuation of a black bottom line is his concern?
Who and how many others punt your DLAPS I wonder?
We inhabit a little village that attracts boatloads of freeloaders
Bach, Pompete as far as I know isn’t banned, he’s just sulking. He posted on 3/3/12 then went on strike but came back 25/8/12 to laugh at my Somerset losing to his Hampshire in the cricket and then went back on strike.
Nathan, correct as always…..and I’ll be back when we do the same next year
Anyhow, remember this, my homage to the King of Punters…..Steve Palmer
Yes I remember it well, it bankrupt me twice.
Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
These trolls are convinced the world of racing is bent and left unchecked may infect genuine racing enthusiasts who visit this forum. In essence they are ignorant of the mathematics of betting. If (admittedly a big IF) they can learn to grasp the fundamentals – then they’d be able to see the error of their ways
I was actually paying you a compliment albeit in a backhanded, round ‘n’ about way
The Gingercharity is an estimable organization though I fear you have a sisyphean task, though I dare say you’ve realised that by now
Anyway, shouldn’t a Gingerpro keep schtum if the continuation of a black bottom line is his concern?
Who and how many others punt your DLAPS I wonder?
We inhabit a little village that attracts boatloads of freeloaders
Realised it was a back-handed compliment Drone, no problem.
Excellent choice of words, "sisyphean" it (after looking it up) is.
Often wondered if I should "keep schtum"; if more bookmakers close my accounts might have to knock the DLAP thread on the head.Value Is EverythingObviously the Prof is a bit of a nutjob but when people respond in a thread of his they frequently move into other areas of interest. All harmless stuff really.
Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.
Luke 4:24
These trolls are convinced the world of racing is bent and left unchecked may infect genuine racing enthusiasts who visit this forum. In essence they are ignorant of the mathematics of betting. If (admittedly a big IF) they can learn to grasp the fundamentals – then they’d be able to see the error of their ways
I was actually paying you a compliment albeit in a backhanded, round ‘n’ about way
The Gingercharity is an estimable organization though I fear you have a sisyphean task, though I dare say you’ve realised that by now
Anyway, shouldn’t a Gingerpro keep schtum if the continuation of a black bottom line is his concern?
Who and how many others punt your DLAPS I wonder?
We inhabit a little village that attracts boatloads of freeloaders
Realised it was a back-handed compliment Drone, no problem.
Excellent choice of words, "sisyphean" it (after looking it up) is.
Often wondered if I should "keep schtum"; if more bookmakers close my accounts might have to knock the DLAP thread on the head.Rolling peas up mountains with your nose is far easier than playing the horses.
VG 
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