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Agree 142 looks too high.
TF have rated him on the bare result +2 lengths. Not sure where they get the two lengths from. That gets into the realms of guesswork for me. Maybe marketing based decision and a bit quick for a rating (haven’t even got the full day’s times yet) so they may yet amend that rating (it’s only provisional I think at the minute).
I hope they do adjust it down at least 4L, because making that performance better than anything Dancing Brave, STS, Mill Reef, Harbinger and Shergar did just makes it look like they are making up the figure to get bums on seats. Everyone wants to see a superstar, right?
Frankel’s performance was outstanding, although time may show that the quality of opposition was of average standard – although I do believe that Frankel would have won about at least 35 of the last 40 runnings of the 2,000 Guineas.
In terms of eye-catching performances in either the 1,000 or 2,000 Guineas runnings, this has to rank alongside Zafonic (1993) and Humble Duty’s very easy win in the fillies’ classic of 1970.
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Love to see the sectional timing which their was this year at Newmarket
Initially the horses were going to carry speed sensing equipment but the idea was cancelled. I haven’t seen an explanation for the original decision or why it was shelved.
On the horse, awesome is a much overused word but that was truly awesome in the proper sense of the word. Can you think of a single horse in any race ever (with the notable exception of Make a Stand in the Champion Hurdle) who could blast off that fast and finish first by any margin?
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OK, Secretariat but I can’t think of another one.
A great performance, couldn’t help but be impressed. Don’t like to diss a horse that wins easily ‘cos they can’t do any more than beat what’s running against them, but… I rather suspect the others were no great shakes. Time will tell, and even if they were a substandard bunch that doesn’t mean Frankel can’t become a great.
Brigadier Gerard’s 2,000 gns win was truly outstanding as it was clearly against proven high-class beasts on the day (Mill Reef, My Swallow); no need to wait for later races to see if the form was top-class. Frankel had nothing of that calibre to beat.
Will he win the Derby?
Not if there’s another high-class horse that truly stays the trip.
So, yes or no? NO.
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I have never heard applause breaking out
over two furlongs out
from the finish in a horse race before. Once seen, never forgotten. Imperious. St. James Palace at Ascot next, surely?
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Stunning performance – he had the whole field on toast before they’d gone a furlong.
Wouldn’t write him off for the Derby yet either; today’s pace was apparently the plan, and anyone believing he’ll do the same in the Derby grossly underestimates his trainer, imo.Having watched the replay a couple of times I really don’t think he had a hard race. Looking at him after the finish he’s still arching his neck like a horse about to go down to the start rather than one who’s just run a race.
The other thing I noticed was that everything that was prominent in the chasing group was going up and down on the spot over a furlong out which shows what a monumental effort they had to make to stay within six lengths of him in the first half of the race.
It’s the amount of ground he covers with his stride that makes him impossible to live with and I don’t see any reason why he shouldn’t be allowed to make all in every race he contests now.
On the horse, awesome is a much overused word but that was truly awesome in the proper sense of the word. Can you think of a single horse in any race ever (with the notable exception of Make a Stand in the Champion Hurdle) who could blast off that fast and finish first by any margin?
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OK, Secretariat but I can’t think of another one.
Pretty much every Martin Pipe trained novice throughout the 80s and the 90s
I was going to say Hawk Wing although he was more about the turn of foot but Dubai Millennium would probably fit your criteria.
Frankel’s still the most impressive 2000 Guineas winner I’ve ever seen though.
The thing about Frankel today is that he didn’t win at the line, he had the race won after a few furlongs.
Whichever race he goes for next he’ll win in my opinion, he has proved he can win from coming from behind and he can also burn them off like he did today.
He won by 6L at the line, but he beat the fourth horse by over 17L, the second favourite by 25L and some highly-rated horses by nearly 50L
It was a stunning performance and Frankel might just well be a genuine one-in-a-million type horse. Only time will tell.
Stunning and a privalage to watch. Still not totally convinced that there are many truely good 3yr old’s this year though.
Doesn’t look like a Derby horse and I hope they resist pressure to run him there and instead aim at this year’s top 1m and perhaps 10f races.
There were a lot of negatives spoken about last year’s 3yr old crop, Let’s see now how Frankel compares to them (as long as he is not ruined by running in the Derby)
I dare say Ginger that they’ll show that Frankel would have won any six furlong race anywhere in the world.
I know today’s rivals were ‘supposed’ milers, but they’re not long out of their sprinting days, and some of them may revert back to sprinting. Yet those first five or six furlings were run like a five or six furlong race – everything of the bridle apart from Frankel, and the freak was 15-20L clear
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That’s not a horse, that’s a gift sent from heaven.
Just makes me want to live forever seeing horses like that.
As no-one else has mentioned it, well done to Tom Queally for having the balls to ride Frankel like that. I can imagine plenty of jockeys who would have chosen to fight the horse and get him behind other runers.
my sister is not into racing at all, in the slightest. We were at goodwood today as her boyfs dad works there got us some tickets. Watched in on the screens, her jaw was on the floor from about 8 strides in, and she’s not stopped talking about him since and wants to go to the next meeting he’s running in. If that’s not good for the sport, then i don’t what is.
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Would just like to add, what ever I do in life from this day forward is a bonus.
I will die a happy man after that.
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