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That’s a shame, but hard to have any sympathy when they’ve not send something sooner…
Elliott said on Thursday morning: "We’ve known for a little while that he was ineligible. I’ve not considered other races at the Festival yet. I’ve got to talk to the owners."
That’s a shame, but hard to have any sympathy when they’ve not send something sooner…
Elliott said on Thursday morning: "We’ve known for a little while that he was ineligible. I’ve not considered other races at the Festival yet. I’ve got to talk to the owners."
Why should they be obliged to say anything? There hasn’t been an entry made, so it’s purely guesswork on the line-up by the punters & bookies.
You should get your money back on that AP bet as the horse never could have had a chance to win the race.
You may get a refund from bookies, but think it very unlikely on Betfair which makes the delay in connections saying anything very poor form, particularly as Elliot is one of their “Ambassadors”
And forgetting about betting, I think connections should make the public aware as soon as possible, of anything worthy in relation to a relatively high profile horse such as a favourite for a Cheltenham race. Communication has got better over the last 5/10 years, but there’s still room for more improvement
I don’t understand what connections have done wrong here…
He wasn’t entered for the race and they didn’t come out and say that was his aim.
This is akin to bookmakers leaving horses in markets when their futures clearly lie along a different path or if they’re injured.
If punters don’t check, they’ve only got themselves to blame, because bookies are sure as hell not going to help you out.
I disagree. If I owned or trained a horse and saw it was favourite for a big race and realised it wasn’t eligible I’d flag it up as soon as possible
Well it’s a bookmaker mistake, not a Gordon Elliott mistake, but I take your point & I’d do the same.
I think this all BF’s fault. They just had their prime 3 years ago and never really came back up after that.
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That’s a shame, but hard to have any sympathy when they’ve not send something sooner…
Elliott said on Thursday morning: "We’ve known for a little while that he was ineligible. I’ve not considered other races at the Festival yet. I’ve got to talk to the owners."
A shame ? It’s ridiculous, laughable almost.
Be nice if any bookmakers refunded any bets placed. Be even nicer if they hadn’t taken the money in the first place
******* farcical racing is at times. Too many times.
I don’t understand what connections have done wrong here…
He wasn’t entered for the race and they didn’t come out and say that was his aim.
This is akin to bookmakers leaving horses in markets when their futures clearly lie along a different path or if they’re injured.
If punters don’t check, they’ve only got themselves to blame, because bookies are sure as hell not going to help you out.
Oh but they did Zarkava.
Gordon Elliott’s own website has continually stated that Backstage’s whole season was being geared to the Cheltenham Foxhunter. Even last Tuesday they posted about its latest victory and about how Jamie Codd would ride at Cheltenham.
Did they know it was ineligible then? I really hope not.
Personally, I love Elliott – he’s easily my favourite trainer and I will be backing many of his runners at the festival (already on Shadow Catcher for the triumph) but just think they’ve let a few people down by not making this knowledge public sooner.Well ok fair enough then, I didn’t know that, but all bookies have refunded bets – not sure what’s happening with Betfair. So for the most part, no harm no foul.
Well ok fair enough then, I didn’t know that, but all bookies have refunded bets – not sure what’s happening with Betfair. So for the most part, no harm no foul.
Right enough.
Until this incident, I actually had no idea about antepost rules concerning horses who are ineligible for races that they are given quotes for.
I suppose we live and learn.Well I placed a bet on Hidden Cyclone to win the RSA on the Wednesday morning after the entries have been made on Tuesday, only £20. When I found he hadn’t been entered, I contacted Hills saying that the bet should be void because there was no chance of the horse running when the bet was placed.
They gave me a £10 free bet which I suppose is at least something, but probably I could’ve gotten the whole £20 had I pushed enough.
Betfair to refund bets as well:
Betfair Customer Services 23 Feb 12 12:24
The BHA confirmed today that both Vic Venturi and Backstage are ineligible to run in this year’s Foxhunters Chase at the Cheltenham Festival.As the rule precluding their participation in this event was in place prior to the Ante-Post market being loaded we have taken the decision to void all Ante-Post bets matched on these two horses.
All unmatched bets were cancelled before reopening the market on the Foxhunters Chase.
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